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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

People who don't understand politics: I want my leader to always act uncompromisingly to solve all of the injustices I see.

The Tea Party and the Freedumb Caucus: Hold my beer...

People who don't understand politics: NoT LiKe Thaaaat!

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Accuses people of not understanding politics

Gets mad when people won't vote for someone they hate.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you actually hate Biden? That even worse than "objectively awful person". Such strong language, especially considering who the alternative is.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's possible to hate two people at once. Three actually. I hate Trump, Biden and Kissinger.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Whoa there, Kissinger finally died. You can put someone else in spot 1 now.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I pity you and hope you are not an American citizen.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't say he was the worst choice. Just that he is objectively an awful person. He is willing to trade lives of refugees to get more money for Israel who is, right now, conducting summary executions of civilians.

This doesn't stop if we don't acknowledge the problems and pressure him.

Also, just for fun, I did choose things which he has the authority to unilaterally act on. He can initiate DOJ investigations into price collusion. He can tell Israel to pound sand. He can go back to Obama era Asylum policies. He could have told the rail companies he was willing to stand with the strikers until their very reasonable demands were met.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't get it.

Biden is not a king, he is a politician in a deeply divided democratic country. You don't agree with the current direction of certain parts of US government policy, which is determined by a huge breadth of considerations. That doesn't make Biden an "objectively awful person".

For comparison, Trump really is an awful person. Even most of his supporters don't think he is a "good person", they just don't care about his antics because he appeals to their fears and baser instincts.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

In many ways the American president is very much a king. If you want to argue that he didn't have the political capital to do so then sure. But as I said above, these are all things within his power, he doesn't need Congress for any of them. And what he's doing with that power is morally repugnant. I would argue he's losing political capital by the truckload every time we get a new report on Israel's war crimes.

And while he can't buy weapons for Ukraine without Congress (the goal the GOP is holding hostage to kill more Asylees and Gazans) he can authorize Ukraine as a buyer in their own right and get a deal with Ukraine to pay for the weapons later. (This was done in both world wars)

He's pretending he's stuck where he can't do anything because people don't understand the powers of the executive and it's convenient for him.