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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Normal people have their behavior regulated by family, partners, and work. It's only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government. Libertarians have spiders in their brains.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Miscegny, abortion, sodomy, war on drugs...

There's plenty of things the government has (and it's trying to have) blocked that "normal" people should worry about

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Have you ever noticed the people who don't want lead in the gasoline are not the same people who are trying to ban abortion?

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

Regulations on business and production of resources don't infringe on my personal liberties.

[–] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

So you'd fear a government that has banned abortion? Damn, you must be a psychopath or part of the ruling class or something.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Some states making it illegal to be homeless. I'm sure the 14th amendment won't be used for nefarious purposes... /s

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey this is the "I have nothing to hide" argument for privacy. I think wanting people to have freedom from suspicion by the government is based. You're not gonna find me agreeing with any right wing "libertarian" positions like low taxes. My libertarianism is more about... Policing.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.one 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I agree. I've been listening to behind the bastards a lot, and the host is basically a pretty radical dude in favor of maximizing personal and civic freedoms and social safety nets.

At this point I feel like we should be called the neo-libroanarchists or something. It seems like every political faction in the US is trying to restrict something just because.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Social libertarians is what you're looking for.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

The right wing think tanks have a deliberate strategy of stealing leftist words.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s only the ownership class and psychopaths who worry about being reined in by the government.

I guess you forgot the badge-wearing fascists with itchy trigger fingers stalking your neck of the woods with the express purpose of visiting violence upon you if you step out of line.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Who uses the badge wearing fascists to control you? The ownership class. Guess who is the ownership class? Not you and I.

[–] TheCrawlingKingSnake@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Username applies.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Human nature is determined by material conditionsss

[–] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Wow cool the most dystopian sentiment possible!