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It's an adiction man π...
i switched to vaping with nicotine. zero problem. did not miss cigs for a second. Then I slowly reduced the nicotine over six months until zero. i'm now smokefree since 2 years after lighting up 30 cigs a day for over 20 years.
I did the same thing after smoking almost as long, well done and congratulations!
You both are stars!! I quit 10 years ago and now I am a podium finishing triathlete and marathoner.
Nicely done! That's how vapes should be used; as a means of harm reduction/tapering off, not as a 'healthy' replacement as some people view them to be.
They're still healthier than cigarettes (just because you're not breathing combusted organic matter) so if every smoker switched to vapes then we'd be in a better place. The only issue I have is the huge uptake of vaping among young people who wouldn't otherwise have smoked.
That's what I meant by harm reduction.
Another big problem with vaping is electronic waste/pollution (especially with the cheap disposables).
You also have to worry about cheap atomizers leeching heavy metals into the vapor.
It's not healthy, but less UN-healthy, which is then often called healthier, which is true.
Did the exact same, although it was more like 20 cigs in 30 years. I was very heavily addicted, and got depression when I tried to quit earlier. I finally managed to quit after vaping a few years, and then reduce the dosis. I've been nicotine free for 5 years now.
Addictions can be broken.
That is true, but it is hard.
It is hard, but it's absolutely worth it and can be made easier if you slowly transition rather than going cold turkey. No way I could have stopped without nicotine gum. Once I finally forced myself to throw my vape in the garbage and just kept using nicotine gum it was really hard to justify going back to vaping/smoking. Smoking (~5 years) -> Vaping (~5 years) -> Nicotine gum (~3 months) -> Regular gum (still using)
Well, gum is not that healthy either, but at least it's cheaper π.
Kidding, it's a lot healthier than smoking, that's for sure.
Damn, I've been smoking for 22, 23 years now... started when I was 16 π.
I gave vaping a try once or twice (can't remember), but I caughed a lot from it... I'll give it another shot, people here gave me some will power βΊοΈ.
When I would take clients to a smoking cessation therapist, one fact that she would cite was the fact that quitting cigarettes is more difficult than quitting heroin.
I would also be told anecdotally by many of my clients that it was harder to quit than other hard drugs like meth and one person even said crack.
It can certainly be broken, but addiction is a disease and your comment could come off as condescendingly minimizing an incredibly difficult task.
I posted 4 words.
Yes, I can count...
Someone voiced struggling with addiction and your overly simplistic response could easily be interpreted negatively in a demeaning way.
Can you see how that is not very helpful and potentially demeaning? How someone can feel that trivializes their struggle?
If you had stated something like "Addiction is so difficult, but it can be broken. Don't give up hope." That is totally different.
You're just making shit up.
What are you even talking about? Making what up?
Are you confused by my analogy I put in quotes?
I said four words.
Man.. I'm having deja vu...
Is that the voices in your head making up more words I didn't say?
Haha, you're either trolling or can't comprehend use of an analogy. I hope for your sake that you're trolling me.
My policy is not to feed trolls, so I'm not going to keep fueling this. This obviously isn't going anywhere anyway, seeing as how you're arguing in a circle.
Feel free to get the last word in and feel like you "won" an argument or whatever you think.