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[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That tribes have governments? Yes, it's called tribal governance. Literally any power structure dictating the lives of a group of people is their government.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I asked for a source. not more rhetoric.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Here you go, government evolved with agriculture, and predates currency:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/government

Also your book doesn't say currency predates government.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

do you know how I know you didn't read David graber's book?

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know how I know you didn't?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

knowledge, being defined as a justified true belief, cannot be what you have about my state of having read that book. you have no justification for any belief about it because you haven't read it. further you certainly can't know that I haven't unless that were true.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well if you read it you failed to understand it, because it clearly discusses barter systems relating to debt, not currency.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Go to school.

How you've deluded yourself into thinking bartering and money are the same thing is beyond me.

If I pay off my debt to a friend with a bottle of whiskey, is whiskey now money?

No, it's called bartering, and it's an entirely different concept.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you didn't even bother to read your own source. it clearly says that the earliest humans didn't need government.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

They also didn't have currency.