this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
1121 points (94.2% liked)

RPGMemes

10414 readers
775 users here now

Humor, jokes, memes about TTRPGs

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I'm sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm gonna devil's advocate this for a second.

Unless you're very poor (which is fair in most fantasy settings there's always poor people) magic kinda negates disabilities.

Like is there no spell that can cure these disabilities?

With that said to have that big of an issue with it just makes you an ass

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Modern medical aid negates many diseases and disabilities including some blindnesses. But we still have people with these problems.

This is an opportunity for worldbuilding and comments about society. You'd be a fool to look at any fantasy setting and think it's an equal society.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago

Regenerate is a 7th level spell. A cleric would need to be 13th level or higher to use this spell. They are not that common, and they likely have more important things to do.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm no Dungeon Master but when a PC has their limb ripped off, isn't the magic that is required to restore the limb kept behind quite a high spellcasting level? And the cost of the materials might be out of reach to more like "Michigan poor" than just "Dharavi poor".

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

7th level spells, yes. Most people who get to a high enough level to use those spells are busy with politics or preventing world ending horrors.

[–] Pog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depends on the world, maybe some magic systems dont allow for healing or performing certain tasks?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

A great example is the spell "Regenerate" in DnD

It's a 7th level spell so not many people will have access to it. And given the nature of wizards being super secretive about their spells it's no surprise it's not more common.

Also at my table I ruled that someone having such spells used on them can have the complexity of the idea of "self" play a role on what is healed. ie they may be willing but after a long time ones idea of self will play a role in what one sees as "complete" and what gets regenerated

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See that would be the defining information.

To what extent to the healing spells heal?

But I'm reminded of that dnd shitpost about revivify and how it even regrows lost limbs and I feel like something like a spinal cord or ocular nerve would be fixed by that.

Hell you could make a hospital where they just kill you if your sick or wounded then revivify your ass back to full health lmao

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Revivify doesn't regrow lost limbs. That's explicitly stated. You're thinking of resurrection, which is 7th level and costs a diamond worth 1000 gp.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah tbh I don't know much about dnd other than what I've gathered through memes and shitposts

Just seemed like something magic should easily be able to take care of

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't checked how this is presented in 5E, but I remember in 2E that the costs of the stronger healing spells that operated on more than hit points, and especially the Raise Dead and Resurrection spells had a very high cost in material components, and took their toll on the caster. In other words, not to be used lightly and all the time. Which means finding someone to cast it for you would come at a correspondingly high cost.

In a well-designed campaign world, that should be reflected in either a high monetary cost for the casting of such spells (a church requesting a sizable donation, for example) or some kind of demonstration that the target is worthy in the eyes of the church or its god.

This can actually turn into a storytelling and role-playing opportunity. Imagine you're blind, and you and your party need to prove that you're a worthy person while blind before they'll restore your sight. Or the whole party is made totally blind for the duration of a test or short quest that you have to complete together before the restoration spell can be cast.

All this sufficiently explains the existence of blind people. Lack of imagination is not an excuse for bigotry.

Also, a character may be unable to get their sight restored, and that can and should be explored for its role-playing potential.