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Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I'm sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 199 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why would that even be a problem? Plenty of blind people in ancient stories, myths and legends. Probably better off without this person.

[–] Tiptopit@feddit.de 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean on one side you'd have the magic to heal many if not all disabilities.

On the other hand in reality we have wheel chairs and stuff to heal and prevent many diseases, too, but still not everyone can get those...

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a fun saying goes "The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed"

The same could easily apply to magics of many kinds

Every time I see shit about cutting edge prosthetics with near-full motion capability, controllable via muscles and nerves or whatever they even use nowadays, I'm reminded of my friend from work who couldn't even afford something beyond a simple plastic harness arm that essentially is just to make it look like he has an arm, with no utility value.

He would take it off during work because it just got in the way, but wore it out to avoid all the questions about it with randos.

Every time I see things about cancer treatments I'm reminded of a few people I knew from my parents social events that have died in the last 10 years simply because they couldn't afford the treatments. A few even got divorced to keep their debt from ruining their spouse after they're gone.

The future can be here all it wants, but until everyone has access to it, we may as well be considered a medieval society.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

5e isn't that bad. Even poor people make two silver a day, and if hiring someone to cast a second level spell to cure a family member of blindness was more than they could afford, you could get so rich casting for money. But those rules are just a suggestion, and I'd probably make it so at least some cases of blindness are a little harder to cure. And you could also make it so economic disparity is much worse.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have the ability to make Tuberculosis not exist and have for half a century. At least 1.6 million unnecessary deaths occurred because of it in 2022. Anyone who can't think further than the first point has the thought capabilities of a gnat.

[–] colmear@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

I just found John Green‘s account.

On a serious note, it is really sickening to hear stuff like this. It’s not even that those drugs are crazy expensive or extremely difficult to distribute. It’s just greed and very bad distributed wealth

[–] FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Blind Swordsman is a massive trope in fantasy literature. Take a look at David Carradine’s character in Circle of Iron for an archetypal example. It’s a staple in many kung fu movies - the Master uses their hyper developed senses for sounds and for movements in the air to sense and react to their enemies. Or take Luke Skywalker fighting the drone with his eyes covered by using the Force. Hodr was the blind son of Odin.

Blindness also occurs throughout mythic traditions, sometimes as punishment by the gods. It occurs in Greek and Jewish myths. The witch-woman in Hawk the Slayer was blind (played by the great Patricia Quinn, who also starred as Magenta in Rocky Horror).

I think it makes perfect thematic sense to include blindness in characters. A blind beggar, a blind prophet, or a blind samurai are all staples of the fantasy tradition. I’d actually love it if we had to work out a player character who is blind, but that would take a fair amount of effort. I think the payoff would be remarkable and memorable, though.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Critical Role had a guest playing a blind character. It was a wizard with folk hero background who used his bird familiar to see. He was awesome.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I could swear he was a cleric who somehow had the familiar spell. Yeah, cleric: https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Shak%C3%A4ste

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shakäste and his familiar the Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna! Very awesome character.

[–] ProtonEvoker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Played by Khary Patyon, aka the voice of Cyborg for the last two decades.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's also the common modern fantasy trope of blind heroes - Daredevil, blind swordmasters, demon hunters from Warcraft, etc. I wouldn't count these characters as "disability representation" because they can perceive their environment as well as a sighted character could, but they certainly set a precedent for meeting a blind NPC in an RPG.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are from our world where magic is no more than a suggestion. In dungeons and dragons magic is tangible and can very easily cure blindness or any other ailment

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, that doesn’t mean everyone is perfect and beautiful though. Maybe they can’t afford to pay a sorcerer. Oh, I know! Maybe they have a curse.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those are great explanations and if that was the case I would try to help them because it's ridiculous being blind in that world. But the vibe op gives off suggests to me that they weren't planning on someone helping them, they were just there for diversity.