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[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their “how it works” blog article is worth a read - they’re using a blackbox reverse engineering of the protocol (called PyPush) and re-implementing it natively in an android app, so there are no man-in-the-middle servers. It's pretty bonkers given how difficult Apple's spec-less tech can be to work with.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And Apple will work tirelessly, and litigate endlessly, to stop this from happening.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve been using Beeper for almost two years now on desktop to view my iMessages, discord, and slack all in one app, and Apple hasn’t said or done shit about it yet

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

WOOOO! Great to know.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s not the same. Beeper mini uses reverse engineering, beeper just uses Mac minis sitting in a datacenter somewhere.

[–] jo3shmoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Per the Beeper CTO, evidently Beeper (cloud) isn't using the Mac minis anymore for anyone who migrated to their latest bridge. It's using the same solution, they just didn't make a big deal out of it at the time. I've actually been on the new bridge since early November and haven't had any issues. In my case the new bridge fixed an issue I was having with SMS forwarding from my iPhone.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

thanks for the correction!

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that RE for the sake of improving communications is allowed, or something along those lines.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Reverse engineering for the sake of ensuring compatibility. It’s not limited to communication.