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A perfect visualisation of a wasteful system (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

There are some capitalist countries that have a pretty low number of homeless people. Finland, for instance: 3,686 in 2022 (0,07% of whole population). So yeah, perhaps USA could do a lot better in this, but also being capitalist doesn't really correlate with this.

Then again, could be that the reason for the low number of homeless people in Finland is that you don't survive the winter if you're homeless in Finland.

[–] ahnesampo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

Finland has a housing first policy. The homeless often have multiple problems that prevent them from getting a home the normal way (e.g. drug problems that cause them to get evicted). Instead of insisting people get better while homeless, they’re given homes first and treatment for their other problems after. This coupled with welfare transfers that ensure you never end up homeless just because of lack of money leads to low homeless numbers.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, Finland does this precisely by rejecting Capitalism and giving homeless people homes. This is not a Capitalistic solution.

I get what you're saying, you can have a majority Capitalist society and still solve homelessness, but the answer will never be Capitalism.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Finland's version of capitalism is in another universe compared to North American capitalism. Finland had UBI, rehabilitation first prisons, housing is treated more as a human right. Socialism doesn't mean the abolition of commerce, it just removes the predatory hoodwink from the equation.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Finland’s version of capitalism is in another universe compared to North American capitalism.

Yeah, quite a lot more capitalistic: https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Finland had UBI

We have never had UBI. Only some local experiments that have ended now. Other things you said are correct though.