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If I'm not being waited on, don't look at me to provide you the rest of your wage. Look to your employer.
No matter what, it's always the employer who should pay the whole wages even when you're being waited on
Why is it arbitrarily OK for waiting jobs?
It shouldn’t be, but it’s US law.
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
Fuck this law, and fuck employers that try to skirt around it when tips are too low. Also fuck employers in general who aren’t willing to pay their employees a living wage.
I tip for waiting jobs because I know people work for shitty employers and it’s their primary income source. But I hate the system, not the people who need tips to get by.
Freedom and oppression.
Corporate asked me to find the difference between these two pictures.
I appriciate the subtle reinforcement of the theme here.
In the same way as jobs that have pay based on commission.
Commission is wrapped up in the sale price, not a separate payment to the employee that I decided upon. The company takes payment and then they pay the employee. This also makes sure the employee is not getting stiffed.
It's systemic, the employees didn't put the tips screen in the POS system.
The employee didn't put it there, but they sure do whip that thing around to let you use it fast enough though.
Yeah, the Mediterranean market near me just got a new credit card reader and the pre loaded software came with the tip screen on it.
Yeah they can turn that off but choose not to. Just saying. Company making the software hopes you'll leave it on and the business owners hope you'll pay their employees for them.
Then don’t go to businesses that don’t pay their employees a fair wage. Don’t just handwave it away while contributing to the problem.
How do one know that?
"May i take your order sir?"
"What's your hourly wage?"
Research the company.
Or just don’t pretend you’re sticking it to capitalism by helping them stiff their workers. You’re directly supporting the practice. You’re no fucking hero for not tipping, and the only people you’re sticking it to are the underpaid employees.
Trust me, as a vegan, i know how hard it is to research everything you consume or buy or purchase. You give up convenience to support a cause you care about or believe in, because those conveniences are exactly what feeds the problem. And trying to find stuff that isn’t contributing to the problem is way more expensive, because cruelty to animals or cruelty to your human minimum wage workers are exactly what makes your food so quick and easy and cheap.
As a general rule, i’d guess that if you don’t want to tip, but don’t want to support companies that don’t pay their wages well: give up cheap fast food. give up most large national or international chains. you’re probably looking at a lot more cooking for yourself from home, probably buying your food at a local small co-op. It’s not going to be easy.
That or tip well because the person taking your order is the person you’re fucking over by not tipping, not the people profiting.
Either way don’t pretend you’re doing anything other than supporting the problem.
What's your solution to knowing which businesses pay their employees a fair wage? How do I know where to shop? Is there a website which catalogs this information?
Ask the employees whether they feel that they're being treated well and paid correctly?
They can't exactly answer that honestly.
Why not? No freedom of speech in the USA?
My solution is to tip well, because not tipping is hurting the employee, not the employer. If they were paying the employees a fair wage, the prices would be higher anyway.
Found the employer
oh go fuck yourself. i make decent money normally, but i’ve also been in the position where im scraping by, and right now im much closer to the latter category, having been recently laid off.
I tip well when I can afford it, but if i can’t afford to do so, i don’t fucking go out. I’m not going to fuck over someone who makes a few bucks an hour before tip so that i can eat cheap food someone else made, im cooking from home now that im unemployed, and even once i have a job again it will be a while before i can indulge in that.
a lot of people seem to be missing my point in this thread, which is that you have a few choices here:
Most of the above are fine. The second from last, if you have empathy for others, you’ll probably at least realize who you’re hurting, even if you can’t help it.
That last one though just makes you a certifiable piece of shit. You’re not cool for fucking over the little guy and calling it sticking it to the man.
Your 'solution' is to tip well which is just giving in to the fucked up american system and supporting companies that exploit their staff.
I tip but only as a thank you if the service was good. It's up to the restaurant to calculate those costs into their pricing.
I don't. I actually live in a country where tipping is not customary. Now let's talk about your problems... Why do you assume the worst in people? You could have said the exact same thing without attacking everybody.sThe world is a large place and things are not always like they are in your neighborhood
Of course, it is common sense when entering an establishment for the first time to do a business model analysis to see if the employees are getting shafted.
That is not my problem. In this day and age where prices if food have gone through the roof, sorry, but I usually search for the cheapest place there is. I have a fixed income as well.
Lol nobody cares. I won't tip. I don't care to know how an employer pays wages. Let me just eat. I'm also a slave, don't look at me for salvation.
Don't work there if wages aren't paid fairly.
So don’t work at your job either if you’re also a wage slave? Maybe take your own advice?
He means it's not up to him to make sure the person serving him makes a decent wage. That's up to the employer.
Everyone who works for a company is a 'slave' we are all being exploited, some more than others. But if you make less than minimum wage without tips then yes maybe look for another job.
Easier said than done if you ever want to eat out. So I just tip and grumble about it.
Or maybe don't work at such a place? Don't agree to an unfair deal. Quit. Force the employer to change.
Lol.Everyone thinks you're dumb.