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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 101 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It does not help that many new vehicles are built like shit and have complexity for the sake of complexity. Electronic door latches, pop-out door handles, having everything controlled via a clunky, outdated, atrocious GUI, etc etc. These problems are not unique to EV's but a lot of EV's are going to have them just because they are brand new vehicles.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The pop-put door handles thing gets me. Like why do I need to push one end of the handle in, then pull it the rest of the way out on the opposite end? It's so backwards and convoluted.

Just give me a damn handle I pull out to open the damn door. Why is it so hard?

[–] zSpider@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Flush door handles improve aerodynamics by reducing drag.

[–] v81@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's true, but also dumb at the same time.

The benefit of reduced drag applies regardless of mode of propulsion.

So really, it's complexity for complexity sake.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not really, because gas engines are so inefficient outside of their ideal RPM range that a little extra drag is barely noticeable.

[–] v81@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Hence why they have transmissions that ensure they're in a favourable RPM range at all times.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

I bet they add all that dumb shit so it breaks and you have to buy a new car after all the bells and whistles are busted and you cant open your doors or trunk, since the motor is so much more reliable and needs less maintenance.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah. I like a nice big touchscreen for infotainment and navigation, but everything else should still be knobs, buttons, and sliders on the dashboard.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It’s just more pronounced in EVs right now because there’s been a huge rush to build EVs and a lot of manufacturers are in their first or second year of offering them. Tesla fares relatively well because they’ve pumped out millions of cars for several years and they focus only on EVs. Meanwhile the EV shitboxes being rushed out by Ford and Chrysler are… shitboxes.

The brand graph is useless here because many of these brands make gas and EV cars. I want to know how the Nissan Leaf fares, for example. They’ve been making it for years. Has it reached the same reliability as other Nissan cars?