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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't know how it will eventually happen, but Microsoft is going to own everything open ai someday. They are playing the long game

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah this feels like some kind of coup

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

My speculation is that they paid Sutskever a lot of money to go away and keep his mouth shut

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They already do. Their licensing agreement with OpenAI is crazily favourable to them. They have basically unlimited rights to use OpenAI's tech forever, and have a claim on most of OpenAI's future profits.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

right now they have a very favourable deal, but don't control the for-profit entity or the non-profit entity (officially) - which means all they can actually leverage is the tech that openai makes for their own uses.

and microsoft making things often just flops hard, look at what they are doing with it, your start menu talks to you now.

the goal is not to have a favourable deal, it's to grow shareholder value by owning openai in 6-7 years

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah, at this point, it feels like beating a dead horse, but somehow they're still doing Embrace-Extend-Extinguish...

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s a hell of a “non-profit” to “mother of for-profit monopolists” transition. Obviously it had started years ago and this past few weeks was just the calamitous release of pent-up tension. But still, Microsoft of all companies.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The firing and subsequent rehire/board change was clearly orchestrated in a way to benefit Altman and Microsoft. I don't have the hate boner for Microsoft that most Lemmy users have, but it's not a particularly great sign of a healthy tech company your "owner" feels the need to pull a stunt like this.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yea I wasn’t trying to channel any particular Microsoft hate. You could probably sub any of the big tech companies in. Either way it’s a massive for-profit to the point of pushing the lines of monopolism.