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luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for....literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??

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[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 101 points 11 months ago (5 children)

OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?

Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it's easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most TV's don't list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.

And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I'd double check where the stands sit exactly, because it's not a design problem but a you problem.

People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on "bad design". It's the most common sense design that will work in most cases.

Next you'll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV's that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn't have the foot width listed on the box.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn't list the stand width. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-43-class-s4-s-class-4k-uhd-hdr-led-smart-tv-with-google-tv/6538141.p?skuId=6538141

A number of other budget TV brands I checked don't have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/amazon-fire-tv-50-inch-4-series-4k-smart-tv/dp/B0B3GTSQ9Q/ref=sr_1_

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's been my experience. It's weird seeing people get so angry at op over the assumption that op ignored fundamental information that is so often omitted by the manufacturers.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly my thought. Makes this place seem toxic as fuck.

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago

This is the most controversial post on Lemmy 4 months later.

[–] FriedCheese@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn't have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.

TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.

Can't wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.

I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it's width is half my desk. It doesn't help that some stores and manufacturers don't have a standardized list either.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not bad design, it's just common sense.

People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People very upset that a company which exists to make money has used the cheaper option for the part of a TV that 80% of buyers will leave in the box anyway.

I saw a comment suggesting that it must only be $5 to add a proper stand. TCL made 30million TVs last year so that's a substantial bonus for whoever made that choice.

Breaking news! Budget TV has budget parts!

[–] freeindv@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"weight distribution"... They weight practically nothing, and even old heavy ass CRTs sat on narrow platform mounts

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well I guess they just so it to annoy people then. There's no other reasons why they'd do this right?

[–] freeindv@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Cost cutting. When huge TVs only cost a few hundred dollars and everything else has gotten super expensive, they have to cut corners

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why is it cutting corners though?

Ideally you'd have the option for both a central stand and the two sides in the one box, but then that's being wasteful and bad for the environment.

There really isn't a good option here. In that case I'd say it's on the consumer to figure out beforehand what the stand is and decide whether they like it or not, not on the company to magically know what stand the consumer needs.

Many companies do shitty things but this stand issue really is a non-issue.

[–] freeindv@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Make center stands great again

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes and then we can have other mildly infuriating posts about this from the other side - why does my TV have a shitty central stand when it could just have two stands on the side? Clearly bad design.

[–] freeindv@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago

Nobody ever complained about center stands

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have the same TV and built a custom stand for it. Doesn't change the fact that the included stand is a bad design.

[–] JaxNakamura@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

I disagree that it is bad design. It's cheap and I also find it ugly, but it does get the job done just fine.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not bad design, it's just common sense.

People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you actually own the TV or one with that same stand? 3/3 people I know, plus OP had to do something extra to make that stand work. That's bad design. Maybe not for the bottom line of the company, but definitely for the customer.

Functionally the stand is garbage too even if you do have a massive surface. It's not at all adjustable and it can easily damage your table if it shifts at all.

But I guess, expecting a product to work out of the box without third party add-ons like a VESA stand or needing to cut grooves in a wooden block to keep it from toppling over is "entitled" now.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.

This is a fairly basic TV stand design. If you honestly know 4 people who've struggled with this then I'm not sure what to tell you. Personally I've never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it's pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn't fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it's fine.

So yeah, I do think it's entitled that people expect every TV manufactured to magically work on their specific table, and if it doesn't it's badly designed. Put another way, why don't you look up some reviews of this TV and see how many people rate it highly vs complain about the stand? When I looked at similar designs they were very highly rated, so at least for the majority of people it's well designed and acknowledging you cannot have a single design that works for everyone.

OP in his post said he saw it in person so they even knew what they were buying and could easily measure it. I don't know how they can honestly go back and say it's badly designed and doesn't fit their table when they literally saw how it was designed and could have easily measured it out if they chose to.

[–] freeindv@monyet.cc 0 points 11 months ago

Personally I've never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it's pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn't fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it's fine.

You're using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.