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Thank you! :) my post was indeed meant as a let’s not take ourselves too seriously tone
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If dude wants to air some grievances, let them. Lemmy isn't doing too well. Listening to what our fellow users have to say so we can make the community a better place can't hurt.
Try being a voluntarist. My ethics are left enough that I can get by, but I feel really out of place here.
A joke I didn't understand, or a joke I didn't find funny...?
Jokey or not, there's no denying that users here frequently just write off opinions as wrong if it doesn't match theirs exactly. Whether they're correct or not it's not a nice place for discussion when the pervading mentality is one of superiority for a large portion of users (and yes this can be said for reddit too).
I don't want to support the poor practises of corporations. More than that though I don't want to cut off my nose to spite my face, and when the feeling from the alternatives is one of non-acceptance that's exactly what it feels like I'm doing.
Not sure I'll be here much longer to be honest, the world won't be changed by people who base their personalities on being morally superior while denigrating anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs exactly. You'll piss people off, but you won't change their minds, and ultimately everyone's a loser as a result.
Joke you didn't understand. You are taking everything ludicrously seriously on, again, a jokey post. The amount of reddit energy flowing out of this comment is obscene. Accusing everyone of acting "morally superior" is copy/pasted straight out of reddits playbook.
Leave if you want. I really don't care. From what I've seen so far you're not exactly adding much substance to the community other than whining and getting personally offended by a vague meme.
A joke you didn't understand. If you didn't find it funny you would have simply scrolled past without the need to leave a comment
A joke that highlights what I feel is wrong with lemmy, I'm really sorry for commenting though, people have taken it very seriously considering the main criticism seems to be that I'm missing the joke.
Why not just downvote and move past my comment without feeling the need to leave a comment?
I find it pretty funny that I point out the non acceptance in this community and lots of the reactions could be summarised moreorless as "Well then fuck you!". Is anyone seeing the irony?
Fuck everyone, people suck no matter what platform one's one. But the main idea behind the fediverse is "make your own".
Block people whose replies are of no value to you. Block communities that harp on about things you find annoying. If you find anonymous downvotes instead of proper replies cowardly, go to an instance that doesn't accept downvotes.
I'm having a great time on Lemmy.
The problem for me is simply lack of users to get a good discussion going on anything that isn't tech or socialism.
I enjoyed it at the start when lots of people were trying it out as an alternative to reddit, but every day I get closer to sacking it off completely because there just isn't the content or users to support the discussions I'd like to have to kill 20min here or there.
I guess my problem is that "make your own" sounds great in principle but when every group makes their own they each become echo chambers for that group. I also haven't bothered fully understanding the fediverse and what I can do with it so that's on me obviously.
I just want an easy to use discussion forum for a range of topics and opinions. And unfortunately it just doesn't seem like this is it.
Ah well.
There's close to 30.000 communities on the Lemmyverse, most of them on servers/instances different than yours. You're on lemmy.world, one of the most "general" instances that took on a lot of the migrating users so there's going to be a more "reddit" style userbase there.
Check out https://lemmyverse.net/communities and look for other communities for your favorite topics. I'm sure you'll find different communities with different type of users. For instance, I browse !technology from several instances. Many of those communities I don't bother commenting in, simply because it's not my crowd. If there's a good post I want to discuss with likeminded people, there's always the cross-post function.
Yeah that's probably one of the biggest barriers to growth unfortunately, which is a shame because it's also potentially one of the best things about it.
With reddit I can just subscribe and unsubscribe to subs I like or don't, it feels like (comparatively) a lot of work to achieve a similar thing here and even when you've nailed it it's yet more work to have a discussion because users are spread so thin.
I think the sad reality is it's just not for me. Ironically this whole thread has been about as enjoyable as I've ever found lemmy though, actual engagement is what I want instead of outright dismissal and this thread is the most in depth discussion I've had in 5months here.
Checking post histories and holding it against users, presenting Lemmy as "a site" instead of interoperating and independent instances where one can tailor ones experience, not advocating finding more suitable communities...
Very reddit behaviour to my eyes.
I know you don't, that's the problem. I moderate a very small community for man united supporters which is supposed to be an alternative to reddit to discuss football. I feel like I'm contributing plenty, but if even if I wasn't, I'm contributing more than people who actively discourage users from sticking around.
Shouldn't we be encouraging users to lemmy? Doesn't it hurt the overall experience if there are fewer users and opinions? Won't it just become an even more extreme echo chamber than reddit?
I'm sorry that I apparently haven't taken the post in the jokey way it was intended, but it does highlight a number of issues with the lemmy userbase, surely you can agree with that at least?
Accusing someone of using something "straight from Reddit's playbook" is (ironically) copy pasted straight from the lemmy playbook. I'm not accusing evrryone of anything, just pointing out the problems I see with a large portion (not all) of users.
Anyway, I'm all about enjoying life. I enjoy it less here than I feel like I could and it seems to be very detrimental to the growth of lemmy.
Edit: I called someone an entitled renter because they were pissed off that their friend had decided to sell their house. Is that unfair...?
Sounds like something a redditor would say.... ;)
You're not wasting time on a redditor though, except to go through their post history to try and find something to meme them for. Again... Seems like redditor behaviour to me :) x
No! I want the last word!!! xD
Why did you delete the example from this post bud?
You know, the one where I called someone an "entitled renter". I thought it was a decent example tbh, even if it WAS framed entirely out of context to make me sound like I was attacking all renters (of which I'm one).
You know what? I'm back in, this whole discussion is exactly what I was missing. Thanks dude x