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The "Manifest V3" rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

AdGuard (system wide), PiHole, inbuilt adblockers are still there and won't be affected by this. Who cares.

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Adguard and pihole rely on DNS redirects - googs has already implemented "secure DNS" for Chrome in Android, which circumvents network level/local DNS by connecting to a Google owned DNS, serving content using those listings instead.

They'll likely bring this to all flavors of Chrome.

Yes, one should use Firefox. Yes that could also avoid the android problem, but also no, because Google forces chrome at weird times (eg, some apps will load a minimal web viewer for hyperlinks links, without leaving the app - sometimes apps don't respect the default browser setting and instead just use chrome.

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[–] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

They’ll likely bring this to all flavors of Chrome.

That's not how that works. Other chromium browsers get to decide what source code they pull into thier own project. They can totally continue using regular DNS.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Adguard and pihole rely on DNS redirects - googs has already implemented “secure DNS” for Chrome in Android, which circumvents network level/local DNS by connecting to a Google owned DNS, serving content using those listings instead.

You can chose many different neutral DNS in AdGuard/Pihole and also in Android (quad9, for instance). In Android I use my own AdGuard Home instance as my DoT server.

They’ll likely bring this to all flavors of Chrome.

Inbuilt AdBlockers work well and wont' be affected by MV3, as they are not extensions. Don't spread FUD.

Yes, one should use Firefox.

No need to be so masochistic and I wouldn't use it regardlessly. I don't want to give undeserved market share to corrupt Mozilla Corp. I'd rather watch ads. But, as I said, there's no need for that, because between DNS blocker and inbuilt adblockers of better browsers, I haven't seen a single fucking ad in ages.

[–] renard_roux@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"... corrupt Mozilla Corp ..."

Could you elaborate?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They believe that Mozilla taking Google's money is bad. But they think Brave surreptitiously changing urls to affiliate links and selling user data to ai bros is totally peachy.

Really, as with anyone who knows about Brave's tomfoolery but accepts it with open arms, he just seems to be a supporter of their CEO, Brendan Eich, who's a Silicon Valley douche and bigot. This seems to be supported by the particular animosity shown toward Mozilla, from where Eich was unceremoniously expelled from (due to the wave of negative PR that resulted form his being named their CEO) just before starting Brave.

Guy's a fanboy. And one that has no problem. Throwing slurs around when discussing things like software. It's best to just ignore him.

[–] reka@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you're going to go Chromium-based at least use Vivaldi... Brave-s benefits minus Brave's shithousery

[–] Pat@kbin.run 7 points 11 months ago

I switched to Vivaldi a couple months ago, and previously used brave in the past before growing to dislike it. It surprises me how many brave-heads ignore Vivaldi's existence. It's just a better Brave. No crypto BS and lots of poweruser features.

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

What's your setup then?