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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you implying the term Big Dick Energy is body shaming men?

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yes. It equates body types with positive/negative traits. ie. "Big dick energy" implies "small dick = bad"

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can we shut the fuck up about being sensitive to everything. Just for a day. Sincerely guy with small dick. Its cold out. Always.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

Nooooo 😭😂😂

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry that adapting is uncomfortable but no

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

I think it's analogous to referring to balls the size of wrecking balls or something. I don't know of anyone who thinks bigger physical balls are superior to smaller balls, but the phrase is still common to denote courage. I think big dick energy is not as decoupled from people's biology as big balls, but it's still mostly decoupled in common usage.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I could see how the phrase implies that, however this meme subverts that by saying that dick size doesn't matter as much as your energy does. And the meme literally says that small dick energy is bad, not having a small pp.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Small dick energy is bad but not small dicks? How does that make any sense. Think about it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Saying small dick energy is just a different way of calling someone out for acting insecure it has nothing to do with the size of their dick.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Insecure like someone with a....?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Insecurity problem

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bruh the only time I've ever used the term BDE is to imply that the size of your pp doesn't matter with this meme. Im sorry its upset you, but i dont really care. Trans men can have BDE without even having a dick. YOU are the one implying that small dicks are bad, not me.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly your whole argument is very reminiscent of people in the early 2000s using the word "gay" synonymously with "bad" and insisting it's not only inoffensive to gay people but that anyone who thinks otherwise is the real homophobe.

The whole "big/small dick energy" things is inherently rooted in body shaming for reasons that have already been pointed out. It doesn't matter that you didn't mean it in that way or that you're trying to flip the script by saying your energy doesn't necessarily reflect or corporate to your penis size.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Calling someone gay in the 2000's was not synonymous with calling somone bad, it was synonymous with calling somone homosexual. Gay originally meant lighthearted or carefree. I got called Gay all the time in the 2000's when I was in high school, the kids never implied it was bad just that I was a homosexual, to which my defense was that I was a Lesbian trapped in a Man's body so I wasnt gay cause I was attracted to women. The church I went to sure as shit implied that being gay was a sin, but calling somone gay was NOT synonymous with calling them bad. It was used for calling peers out for acting outside of accepted social norms, such as homosexual behavior largely was at the time and still is in some places.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Were you not a (pre-)teen in the 2000s? Because the phrase, "nah, that's gay" was bandied about quite a lot by teenage boys and men with the mentality of teenage boys quite a lot.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

I graduated High School in the 2000s. And yeah I heard, "nah, thats gay" ALOT but its was almost always in reference to things boys didnt want to do cause they thought it would make them look gay if they did it. ie.

Kid A: "Hey you wanna join Marching Band." Kid B: "Nah that's gay."

Kid A: "Do you want to go watch an off broadway productiong of RENT instead of playing Halo?" Kid B: "Nah That's gay"

[–] crystal@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

doesn't matter as much

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It does literally refer to penis size. Hiding it behind the word "energy" is just obfuscation. It reminds me of racist people defending the N word by saying, "there's black people, then there's Ns. Black people are fine, Ns aren't."

You're just kicking the can down the road. It's the exact same idea, phrased differently. You just wanna say "small dick" and get away with it, that's all.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

MFer did you just compare "small dick energy" to the n word 💀

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Did you just describe what I did in a reductive way, without even attempting to explain your point? Why should I listen to you?

Try attacking the idea itself: "You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently."

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"That's reductive", said the N-word comparer 💀💀

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Attack the argument or accept that you're wrong.

"Small dick energy" is just a way to say "small dick" without getting called out for it.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Begging people to debate you about how saying small dick energy is like dropping hard Rs is the most small dick energy thing I can think of, no thanks

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

See, you still show no evidence you have any clue what I'm saying, so how can I take you seriously? I never said it is "like droping hard Rs". Seriously, get up to speed or get lost.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Here's an actual, completely serious input for you: If you want people to take you seriously and actually engage, don't start by comparing them to outspoken racists. People will prefer to roast you

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not. I didn't realise people would be so confused by analogies.

I compared the rhetoric. That's the point of such devices. You don't have to be a racist to use similar logic to them.

This isn't complicated whatsoever.

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How deep are you willing to go before you admit you made a dumbass comparison?

Look, I can pretend I'm smart by invoking latin shit too: adversus solem ne loquitor

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Explain how the comparison is "dumbass", or admit you're just wrong.

Anyone can just make claims without justifying them. I claim trees speak German. I will elaborate no further!

pretend I’m smart by invoking latin shit too:

Um, you think that's all I was doing there? Just saying random Latin?

You do realise this is just... you admitting you don't know what reductio ad absurdum is?

And you're acting like that proves anything other than that you're ill-equipped to discuss rhetoric?

I'll explain: reductio ad absurdum is a common rhetorical device whereby you take someone's logic, and apply it to the most extreme example, to show how the logic fails. It literally means "reduction to the absurd".

Here's an example:

What you just did now? Saying "I can invoke random Latin shit"? That's like you, in court, objecting to a lawyer using the term "mens rea", and saying they're just "invoking latin shit", because you don't realise it is in fact a common term in that context, and instead think they're just showing off.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Psst, let me share a little secret. What I said wasn't random it's another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical, but I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning. I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Have you stopped even trying to make a point?

What I said wasn’t random it’s another phrase debatelords like yourself use to pretend they are very cool and logical

What? "I can invoke latin shit too?" You were trying to wield that against me in a "look, this is how you look" kinda move? When I never did that or anything like that? Well, cool. I hope you had fun, but it was a waste of time.

I love how eager you were to flaunt your knowledge of something with a very obvious meaning

I'm not "flaunting" I'm explaining, because it appeared to be a roadblock for you. You didn't respond to it, but simply point at it and the fact it was Latin. You gave every indication of being stumped. Should I instead have just mocked you and allowed the conversation to come to a standstill? I was trying to explain my point to you.

This isn't a fucking fight. It's a conversation. I'm trying to be even-handed and fair, here.

I thought it was poignant to someone trying to argue some of the most stupid shit I’ve ever heard, and you can say ad hominem to that.

I'm not sure you're using "poignant" correctly, there. But nothing about this comment I'm responding to makes any sense whatsoever in context, so that's just par for the course, it seems.

Also, why would I call that an ad hominem? Your guesses and estimations about me thus far have been completely off the mark, so what makes you think this one will hit?


All that said, are you ready to get back on topic?

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not reading all that but I'm happy for you

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

The guy is hiding behind semantics, so I described another instance of hiding behind semantics. I deliberately used an extreme example so the error was more clear. Basic reductio ad absurdum.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Ooh, name calling! Based on a willful misinterpretation of what they said, too. A sure sign of a solid argument!

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Try raising your speech level above 0 before responding.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bruh you just compared using the term BDE to the N word.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I compared one instance of belittling offence to another instance of it. Keep up.

I even added explicit reasoning afterwards in case you got distracted, but you still couldn't control yourself.

Maybe try responding to my point itself, instead of the analogy that came with it?

You’re just kicking the can down the road. It’s the exact same idea, phrased differently.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lmao you have such debate lord energy, the meme i shared literally says your pp size doesn't matter. The fact that you equated BDE with using the N word shows how out of touch with reality you are.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, you say dick size doesn't actually matter, but you're still talking about dick size. The word "energy" is just an excuse, so you can say "small dick" without being called out.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never said small dick till YOU did lmfao

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Sure buddy. "Big dick energy" exists in a vacuum and isn't the counterpart to "small dick energy".

How gullible do you think I am?