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[–] zettajon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Nope, Apple sells your data just as much as Google does: https://www.insiderintelligence.com/content/apple-ad-revenues-skyrocket-amid-its-privacy-changes https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/22/23513061/apple-iphone-app-store-ads-privacy-antitrust#luMMel

While people noticed their new policies against 3rd party apps, that masked the fact that those policies carved out an exception for first party apps, meaning they collect (anonymous) data on you through Health, Journal, Music, etc. just like every other company. "Trusting them more" is simply a result of you and everyone else getting hit with their privacy ads recently.

Edit: "just like every other company" meant Google and Microsoft, i.e. the other big equivalent tech companies, my fault for not being specific.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I’m all for calling out companies for abusing your privacy, your own links show that they don’t collect as much data as google. They could (and should) be better though.

[–] khajimak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope apple is literally worse than hitler, spez, and elon musk confirmed. Tim apple fucked my wife in front of me.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You lucky sonofabitch. You got to witness the ol Apple Pie with your own two eyes.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anonymous data is actually pretty different to the data everyone else collects, which literally has your name and picture

Apple’s data is useful for trends but it can’t be used to study who I am.

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment needs to be further up rather than the idiotic takes that don’t understand the difference between anonymized data collection (Apple) vs identifiable data collection (Meta/Google/most other tech).

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, then there's also the people that don't realize that there are all sorts of programs out there that will try to take that "anonymized" data and then tie it right back to a persons profile.

For example, you can anonymize GPS location data, but just because you strip away identifying information doesn't mean that you're truly anonymous. It can still be obvious where you live and where you work. And once you figure out where they live (again based on anonymous data) you can tie that information right back into their profile and continue to track them as if nothing has changed. https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a15927450/identify-individual-users-with-stravas-heatmap/

[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That won’t work on Apples data - they group all the data into cohorts, so the anonymising isn’t reversible.

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Not all anonymization techniques are created equal? I’m pretty sure this is fairly obvious at this point to anybody remotely familiar with how data collection works when it comes to privacy and device metrics.

So, how is this relevant to this conversation besides adding more FUD and misinformation?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

As much as Google? Likely not. Does their carefully curated pro-privacy image actually match their practices? Also likely not.

[–] SidneyGrant@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like wuth the amount of stuff done on device and not in the cloud with iPhones and other Apple products, saying that Apple sells just as much as Google is at the very least disingenuous…

[–] IronCorgi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Why? They gather data locally on your device rather than on a cloud service. Why do you feel the locality where they gather your data makes the comment disingenuous?

[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Did you read the article you posted? Apple serve you ads, they don’t sell your data. And they allow you to opt out of tracking. It’s all right there in your article.