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As the National Book Awards came to a close on Wednesday, finalists for the prestigious literary prizes took the stage in New York to speak about the Israel-Hamas war, with others at the ceremony also choosing to address banned books.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How sad that it's come to this. On the other hand, maybe if Mr. Rogers was still around, we'd have someone to talk to Republicans about kindness.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans have tried demonizing him as woke trying to indoctrinate our children. So unfortunately unlikely.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Demonizing probably the nicest man in history is a good indicator that you're the villain.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The irony is, he is woke. Dude was literally Kunta Kinte.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fred Rogers is the guy this particular thread of the post is referring to. He would have made an interesting casting choice for Kunta Kinte.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Though it could be argued Mr. Rogers was woke. That would, however, make it hard to argue woke is a bad thing.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that’s because “wokeism” has become a right wing dogwhistle for basically ‘anything that forces us to confront our shitty and outdated ideas’.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They did the same thing with "social justice" before that and "political correctness" before that. Words don't mean the same thing to conservatives.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whether woke is good or bad depends entirely on how it's defined. I generally see it as an antithesis to ignorance. So a combination of both educated and rational thinking.

Sometimes it describes things that are educated and irrational thinking, which is ironically what the right does a lot. Basically fear mongering.

Then you just use the two interchangeably to make it sound like rational observations are radical.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, your first definition is the original one. The second one is the disingenuous one conservatives use. They did the same thing with "social justice" and "political correctness". Conservatives never come up with anything or good, they just ruin shit.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I know. But even then they're intentionally inconsistent so the good and bad gets mixed in together.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"some people suck". That is the unfortunate truth of any society. But all my examples started as good things. Shitty people stirred shit into them. It has to be said that people who actively fight progressive movements are assholes. Any history book can tell you that, if they don't burn it first.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would call him too woke.

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Fox News called him evil, so… at least he’s not woke.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They wouldn't listen to him, and would call Mr. Rogers woke trash. The current Republican Party and its supporters are a hot mess.

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depending on how you define “modern” Fox News did call him evil in 2007.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-fred-rogers-evil/

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There is also that whacko on Newsmax that calls ~~the Muppets~~ Sesame Street a bunch of evil communists.

This is him when he was on Fox but he has ranted about wanting to debate that well known commie Big Bird a couple times while on Newsmax.

https://youtu.be/LWFCja7MTPI?si=SstDGuWFht9N4fLn

To be clear: this man wants to debate a fictional character on a beloved children's TV show and Fox and Newsmax continued to employ him.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Haha, what even is this timeline?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I need The Muppet-churian Candidate...... Oooh and Dr. Strangemuppet!

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I did not know about this one.

How far gone does one have to be that saying this on TV is not only okay, but encouraged?

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

I forgot about this.