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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. I can’t imagine there’s a single person who has ever felt legitimately proud about being discriminated against in a manner you suggest.

Sure, I didn’t think that’s what they mean, but that’s what it feels like. If it’s not the same as “being proud of your culture”, what’s the other difference?

Proud of continuing the traditions of one’s ancestors so they aren’t permanently lost to historic racism or diluted in the modern melting pot, via artistic expression, etc, yes.

But again, that’s culture. Isn’t it better to say you’re proud of what you do, instead of what you are?

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think I’ve said enough already. It feels like you’re just pushing an agenda instead of trying to understand. Which, oddly enough, is historically how some of all this came about to begin with.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m honestly trying to look at stuff from the most neutral stance possible, but I guess being white in a region with 96% white people is bound to give me some bias, I’m sorry if that’s how I came off as.

That’s also why talking about this with someone I’m not intimate with is hard, they might feel like I have bad intentions and cut the discussion altogether.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, for the first time, a certain group of white people feel threatened that they’re the ones being erased now, despite that being totally untrue, so those people are playing a victim card and trying to claim the same level of erasure now that other races actually experienced as minorities in the past under a white majority. And it isn’t working out well, because the claim is artificial, and a great deal of the white culture that has “been lost” is simply not being in a position of power over other races or getting preferential treatment for opportunities. That’s what all the “white pride” nonsense is about, something that they shouldn’t be proud about to begin with. It’s not the same thing. Meanwhile other races have that history of actually being oppressed, so the concept of racial pride and preserving their racial ties and culture is entirely different for them.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But then again, isn’t the difference only that a group has been oppressed and the other hasn’t?

I don’t really get this concept of “racial pride”. Alliance, brotherhood, any kind of cooperation between people who face the same struggles is clearly going to be stronger between groups who faced more hardships, but I feel like being “proud” of your skin color is just pointless.

Another commenter brought the example of Candace Owens, she’s black, but considering her actions does that mean anything at all?

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

Once you’ve seen enough of your own race be killed for no reason other than being your race, you probably feel differently.