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Most men have no idea what they actually like. I'd be willing to bet most wouldn't be able to identify light mascara even if they saw it applied
Agree. Men who go out of their way to evaluate women’s appearances and say they like women with no makeup generally mean they prefer it when women are level ten makeup astronauts who make full face look like “I just woke up this way!”
That said, the full-set lakes that make it visibly hard for a person to blink look really uncomfortable, and that makes me vicariously uncomfortable.
How do you evaluate that? I'm really asking, cause I've been in long-term relationships, so I've gone to bed next to someone who just removed their makeup and liked their face better without it, so please let me know how you evaluate that "generally" that's what men mean - that they like full face make-up?
There’s two kinds of putting on makeup: the kind where you’re going for drama, and the kind where you try to make it look as natural as possible, highlighting features to make them look better.
Most often, when you see comments about ‘women should look like this!’ And ‘see, women without makeup look better!’ the pictures that go along with the comment are women with a very good version of the second type of makeup.
Oh, so you base your assumption of "most men" off of comments you see on the internet. Ok, nevermind then.
Ah, but I’m given to understand it’s only men on the internet. If that’s the case, given the large number of people, then it’s by far the biggest sample size.
Your choice to rely on data collected from internet isn't wrong because "there are no women on the internet", or because the sample size is too small. It's wrong because of two things
the bias of your sample, which is created by you. You're the only one reading comments, so you're only reading them from certain sources. Whether those sources will constitute a sample that is representative to the rest of the world is debatable
People lie on the internet. For example, I am a piranha, and every time I hit a certain region of my tank's glass, autocorrect selects one of the three words suggested, based on the location of my head bonk. Unfortunately so are most of my colleagues in this thread replying to makeup related questions, as well as everywhere else in your online presence. We're all just fish bonking our heads on glass. We'd obviously all love makeup on women, if we understood the concept of women. Your polling sample is unfortunately tainted. But hey, at least you know now that most piranhas like makeup on women.
Boy, snark and hyperbole are really lost on you, aren’t they.
My, aren’t we salty.
What I’m saying is, there is a certain type of man who goes around policing women’s appearances and beauty habits on the internet (ew, I wish they wouldn’t wear makeups.. so gross!). This type also gets fussy when they have to witness a woman not having a stunningly flawless face (ew, she’s a 3, how dare she exist).
My wife rarely wares makeup and rarely has. I prefer it when she doesn't, which is good because so does she.
It generally means they don't like women wearing so much make-up it is noticeable even to them.
At least for me. I rather prefer them a little ugly than looking like a clown.
It can take a lot of makeup to create a look where a bunch of guys think there's no make-up.
To say it differently, you don't ask a fish how to go fishing. They would just say "be a delicious worm or bug" and have no concept of rods, reels, locations, or any of the skills involved in actually fishing.
Yeah, this statement is simply wrong. Men unconsciously notice a lot of things, and they might deny noticing even obvious ones because any acknowledgement of fashion is considered effeminate by some men.
I love the drag queen lashes that are so long they’ll take out the person next to you if you turn your head too fast.
Very much this. I tried to further explain the reasoning but I realized that it'd just sounded way more incel'y than it needed to.