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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It takes less land and water to feed someone wheat, soy or corn than to feed them beef, chicken or pork.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what crops that are fed to beef chicken and pork are parts of plants that people won't eat for the most part. The same fields that grow the soybeans we use for oil are growing soybeans that are used as feed. The same soybeans that are used for oil are used for feed.

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is sometimes true. However, e.g., about 4% of the farmland in California is used for alfafa, which is just for livestock. Alfafa is also a very water intensive crop.

Additionally, there are other uses that livestock corn feed could be put to if there weren't so many damn cows, so it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not like we'd be throwing away megatons of silage if it weren't for cattle.

I don't think there is a better use than making food. I'm fine with that.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but beef, chicken, and pork continue to be made in increasing amounts. things are getting worse despite the fact that vegans exist. being vegan doesn't help the planet at all.

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

World population increase + westernization of diets in China outweigh the tiny number of vegans in the western world. Your math doesn't check out.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

make any excuse you like for why being vegan doesn't help.