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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Charlie Stross on his role in creating the Torment Nexus, with a long description of our very good friends (www.antipope.org)
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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I have nothing interesting to say about the article, but I got a kick out of what orange site thinks:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38221178

Why does someone who writes great sci-fi suddenly have social capital to weigh in on industry and politics, two things firmly outside of his wheelhouse?

How absolutely dare someone comment about the perceived impact of their work?

but at what point did our hatred of capitalists (note: I don't hate capitalists) decide to overshadow our, you know, lifelong lust for the stars?

* pauses sentence to perform a quick act of fellatio *

Every time I read a technologist's screed against Musk or Bezos or Zuckerberg (three people whose combined lifetime works do not even scratch a fraction of the economic value incinerated by the US military in 40 weeks) all I can see is sour grapes and ad hominem.

Maybe take off your Musk-sperm-tinted glasses then?

These people did not create nor perpetuate the attributes of the dystopia you claim to reside in (that was the CIA). (It's also not actually a dystopia, or anything resembling one; ask any of the two billion people lifted out of dirt poverty (largely due to technology!) in the last three decades.)

No no no, it wasn't a system of misaligned incentives and lack of accounting of negative externalities that has created the dystopic world we live in today, it was the CIA! Wait, it's not actually a dystopia!

The old planet will go to hell in its own way from its own inhabitants. I'd rather live in space where it's safer. (Also, how cool would it be to escape before Earth is finally fully conquered? This would mean that humans as a species successfully avoid a total hierarchy.)

[The forces that are destroying the planet]

[The people trying to get to space]

They're the same picture.

[–] locallynonlinear@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I want to live in space where it's safer.

Good, we feel the same way about that.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’d rather live in space where it’s safer.

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[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

You see my beany friend: you may die in space from radiation, freezing, cooking, air leaks, malnutrition, weird gravity effects on growth and maintenance of the human body, blood clots, disease, high velocity debris impacts, various and sundry systems failures and so on.

But the thing you don't appreciate is rather telling! In a SpaceX aMartheid hab dome there are no black people.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 1 points 10 months ago

The ultimate white flight.