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[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fundamentally a joystick is a device that gives input in 2 dimensions, while steering a car is a 1 dimensional input.

[–] wieson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But the wheels only have one degree of freedom...

[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

I think that's what they're pointing out, that a joystick has too many dimensions.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like the wheels on the car.

[–] wieson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Those are the ones

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joysticks in remote controllers for toy helicopters are usually forced into one direction, you can just restrict one of the two dimensions

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So a thing worse than a wheel?

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While a wheel is more familiar to me, I don't think it has many advantages over a speed modulated joystick, just make it as big as a hand so that you can have a hand for the joystick and lights and another for the gear stick, maybe put the control of the lights on the joystick if its more convenient

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But cars move in an arc, the turning of the wheel is an extremely good analog for the cars movement. I really disagree and I submit that no one uses a joystick for sim racing, if it was better ppl would have latched on. You need the force feedback and control that comes with grasping a wheel and having the lever moment that a wheel gives. A joy stick has no mechanical advantage.

That's true but when I talk about a joystick, I was thinking more in the line of a big lever connected to where the turning wheel is, the problem I see is that the servos to give the analog feedback would have to be stronger. As there is no precedent, we can't see if it would stick