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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hamas is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?

A small paramilitary organization operating in occupied territory is doing the exact same as the Chancellor of a European industrial powerhouse?

I'm always a bit surprised when some terminally online guy tries to give people in Hamas this much credit.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Small paramilitary organization? Okay guys, we can call Isreal out for genocide while still acknowledging Hamas as a terrorist group that slaughtered 1,000 civilians, plus whatever else since then.

Hamas and Isreal both suck. The only people I care about are the civilians and dead kids.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay guys, we can call Isreal out for genocide

Can we? I heard that was anti-semitism.

Hamas and Isreal both suck.

One is a paramilitary response to the suffocating violent occupation of the other. Might as well denounce the Vietcong, the Spanish Republicans, or Nate Turner Slave Revolt as Terrorists. You wouldn't be the first.

But to equate the two is to equate the symptom with the illness. Even the fucking Times of Israel acknowledges that the Hamas movement is the direct result of Netanyahu's domestic policies. The Palestinian Authority has been denuded of all legal agency in a territory they cannot govern thanks to Israeli sanctions. Gaza hasn't had an election since 2006. There is no way for anyone in the territory to survive, absent the black markets and smuggling corridors maintained by Hamas paramilitary.

This is a deliberate consequence of the stated policies of the Israeli government.

So both Hamas and the IDF are creatures of the Israeli government. The only way to resolve this conflict is to effect regime change in Israel.

The only people I care about are the civilians and dead kids.

The only way to achieve that is a ceasefire. And Israel will not implement a ceasefire until its leadership is removed.