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There are some views I have, that if you don't agree with them, you are definitionally an intolerant bigot. I think trans people exist and are fully human. A lot of conservatives right now disagree with that; they think trans people are mentally ill and need to be cured of their transness. This makes them intolerant bigots. This itself is intolerable.
I understand that we have to live with these people. I'm not arguing that they should be executed or imprisoned for holding their views. But they should not be allowed to express those beliefs in some situations, and they should definitely not be allowed to enact those beliefs.
I feel like your missing something, because that belief alone wouldn't make them intolerant bigots.
Counterpoint: yes it does
I fail to see how the mere belief that someone suffers from a mental illness makes someone a bigot. Like I said, you're missing an element or two of what defines bigotry.
You sure do, bud
Still waiting for a thoughtful answer, pal.
My answers are thoughtful.
Uh, trans folks exist and are fully human of course but there is also a mental illness issue - their brain’s gender doesn’t match their body’s gender. This can be helped with transitioning and stuff but it is at its root a mental issue. Doesn’t make them less of a person and it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get all the help and support they need to thrive. Doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t call them by their preferred stuff either. But it is a mental illness by definition. Just one that we should help with without judging, same as depression or anything else
This is false. From the cleveland clinic:
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness (it's listed in the DSM-5), and the best treatment we have for it is gender affirmation. But not all trans people have gender dysphoria. From that same page:
It sounds to me like you're not intentionally bigoted, and you also don't seem intolerant. But I think you're misinformed on this one, and calling being trans a mental illness could be very hurtful to some. There's a reason the cleveland clinic document literally starts with "Being transgender is not a mental illness", in addition to having a section below that addresses it (which I quoted above).
You learn something new every day. I thought it was all covered under gender dysphoria, didn’t realize it was that wide of a spectrum. Thanks for the info!