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"Gabriel had already made a movement to play the ball before any contact" what the fuck kind of reasoning is that? How does that make it not a foul?
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If anything, isn’t it worse if a player gets fouled after they have played the ball?
I don't agree with it fully but they're saying Joelintons actions had no/ little impact on Gabriel as he had already went to make that header.
I've watched it on 0.25 speed and the only thing Gabriel had done by the time Joelinton made contact was brace/position himself as the ball was coming in. He still had more than enough time to adjust himself if unimpeded IMO. The decision makes no sense to me
Which is fucking insane to claim.
This. I don’t see how two hands pushing Gabriel down by the back of his neck doesn’t impede him significantly. It’s a total farce.
I can understand them saying it wasn't a clear and obvious error even if I disagree, surprised they didn't disagree with the original on field decision though
Gabriel showed the intention of going forward. Joelinton was only helping him get there faster. That's all.
Fucking insane. Like, say I had already started my movement to shoot the ball 1 on 1 against the goalie from 15 yards, but then my standing leg got violently slide tackled from behind, nowhere near the ball. No foul apparently 😆
It's a phrasing they've never used before, to invent a way of not admitting wrongdoing.
He also played it with his arm.
Can someone explain to me how Saliba being hit on the arm in a natural jumping position from half a yard away on a scuffed Mudryk-header going a mile off target is a penalty, but Joelinton assisting the goal with his arm in a fouling motion from a 20 yard pass is a-okay.
Even beyond the handball , the foul is obvious and the offside is clear, there is no logic. Blatant cover-up.
i haven't seen any angle showing whether it was offside, could you link a video/screencap?
https://imgur.com/Z2WSvjj
And this is a pretty conservative set of lines from the guy who drew it. The line on Gordon is at his knee, rather than at his outstretched foot which isn't visible from this angle, while the line for the ball is so far right, that if the ball was any further right it'd be visible - even though it obviously hit the left side of Joelinton.
If they'd drawn the lines at Gordon's foot from a different angle, the line would go somewhere in the visible space right of Joelinton and behind Gabriel, which would mean that even if you can't pinpoint the ball, you can see that it's at least half a yard offside.
It's much clearer than the the time they couldn't find Cucurella's foot because he was blocked by his own keeper, so they just gave up after 4 minutes and guessed that Martinelli was probably offside to overturn the goal.
You can't even see the ball mate. How do you think that is 'clear and obvious' It isn't, and so VAR can't rule on it.