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Who wouldn't want to finance warm cardboard? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife and I were talking about this earlier. Boomers who managed to save cash were able to put that money into fixed income assets at incredibly high interest rates during the eighties. A 5 year CD in 1984 paid 12%, at renewal in 1989 it was, 9%, then 6.5% at the next renewal in 1994. In 1999 rates started their race to the bottom but stocks skyrocketed. So if you amassed cash in the eighties and nineties through fixed income, you had a great position to capitalize on the dot com boom, buy cheap during its crash, buy cheap real estate after the 2008 financial crash, capitalize on the market rebound, etc. All mostly for free because of timing.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All easy decisions, in hindsight. In reality quite a few missed out completely on all of those or lost significantly. It's all just some sort of gambling in a casino. I'm sure in hindsight it will be clear which opportunities you missed out on in your time. The big difference is being able to save to start off with, because wages were relatively a lot higher for simple jobs than they are now.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why I started by highlighting the fixed income stuff like five year CDs. I remember my mother and grandmother putting their money in those and bonds and how well it served them into retirement. Those weren't hindsight. Back then, working families put their money in savings. Sure there were Wall Street cocaine yuppies making insane money but, at least in my household, that was just the stuff of movies.

I'm not fully disagreeing with you. I just think both aspects made a difference. Higher wages and a feasible way to save your money without having to partake in the casino was key. I look at millennials and zoomers and I see none of that. Low wages, higher cost, and the only way to save for retirement is by betting everything you've got on a system that's heavily rigged against you as a retail investor. As Gen-X at least we had the chance to make our own wealth by creating an entire new industry. My younger siblings and my children would have had none of that, if I had siblings or children. /Rant

EDIT: The eternal battle with autocorrect

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. People could also get rich now on crypto, but that's easy to say in hindsight, it was all a gamble, and just as many people lost a whole lot.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

covid crash happened only a few years ago and looking back it was the opportunity of a lifetime. Of course at the time there was a very real possibility that society was collapsing and there wouldn't be a stock market in a year or so.

everything's easy in hindsight