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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I doubt it. True random shuffle play is rare, because humans don't understand the chaos of true random generation, we see patterns in it and assume it's not random.

A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle.

Nothing does that these days. Nearly everything "random" is algorithmically engineered to be less random so it feels more random to humans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can definitely make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t play the same song twice within a gap of ten songs.

You just make a list of all the song IDs that aren’t in the last ten played, and grab an item at a random index.

Randomness is a texture not a shape. Dice are random despite only being able to present six outcomes.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle. Nothing does that these days.

Tidal does and it's annoying af.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

A truly random walk through a playlist might choose the same song twice in a row. A truly random shuffle would only have each entry appear once and you'd have to play past the end of the shuffle to hear a song repeat.