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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But you can make it actually random by doing this:

  • Tap your profile picture
  • Tap settings
  • Tap Playback
  • Toggle the “Automix” switch to off

Now you have truly random shuffle

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm pretty sure this is wrong. From what I understand, automix just blends together the ending and beginning of the two songs. For example if there's silence at the end of one song, or 'compatible' music, the 'ai' will try to smooth out the transition like a dj would while making a mix.

Edit: yup, that's what it is https://support.spotify.com/ca-en/article/tracks-transitions/

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Turn off* cross play.
That will give more randomness, but I still get a bunch of songs on repeat in a 3K song playlist. Annoying.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Often completely botching existing transitions on, say, two consecutive songs on an album that already flow into one another.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Well it’s some setting. I recently made the switch and now I’m hearing random songs I haven’t heard in years. It’s actually sampling my whole collection as far as I can tell.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I doubt it. True random shuffle play is rare, because humans don't understand the chaos of true random generation, we see patterns in it and assume it's not random.

A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle.

Nothing does that these days. Nearly everything "random" is algorithmically engineered to be less random so it feels more random to humans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can definitely make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t play the same song twice within a gap of ten songs.

You just make a list of all the song IDs that aren’t in the last ten played, and grab an item at a random index.

Randomness is a texture not a shape. Dice are random despite only being able to present six outcomes.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

A truly random walk through a playlist might choose the same song twice in a row. A truly random shuffle would only have each entry appear once and you'd have to play past the end of the shuffle to hear a song repeat.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle. Nothing does that these days.

Tidal does and it's annoying af.

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

you my sir are godsend