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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Blood Music was way cooler then this just saying.

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did he always show his ass so much when tweeting or is this a recent development?

I love how what if LLM but it makes your DNA mine bitcoin is the culmination of untold amounts of dollars in MIRI research grant money. Real effective altruism is when you tithe 80% of your income in perpetuity just so sneerclub can have more content.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He always had a tendency to be wrong, but this is going right into not even wrong territory.

The LLM modifies your DNA to create a biological wireless wifi transmitter! (He isn't saying this but that is what is required and not just that, but so much more, like a whole DNA equivalent of a network stack, cryptography, getting rid of waste heat, etc etc. He just believes AGI is magic and that LLMs will become AGI, he has lost his mind. I mean look at how he dismisses somebody going 'nice science fiction story brah' with IT IS LLMS!).

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignore the implication that the virus could rewire my guts into an LTE modem or brainwash me into reading and typing out entire bitcoin transaction blocks for a moment. Yud considers the ability to freely mutate humans to an arbitrary extent and the supervillain plan he comes up with is a fucking cryptocoin miner?

How does someone this creatively bankrupt produce 660 thousand words of a fanfic?

Not to dehumanize but are we sure Yudkowski isn't an LLM himself?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God you sneerclubbers are never satisified, last time he invented biological bacteria factories creating diamondoids which killed every human alive a the same moment and it wasn't realistic enough and now he creates a bitcoinminerbrain and suddenly he isn't creative. Whaddayawant?!

But yeah, it is really not that creative indeed, but then again, most 'agi kills everybody' stories are already a bit done.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The concept is just another grey goo scenario rehash but I grant that "diamondoid bacteria" is a striking name for it.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

It just reminds me of the "diamondilium" in the Futurama movie that proved the Futurama writers didn't know how to sustain a whole movie.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got the feeling it was a bit weirder than that, it was more like skynet (who wants to kill everybody because handwave) but now skynet wins the opening move.

Unrelated to that but somewhere in the 'dna gets rewritten by LLMs to do blockchain stuff' is a good science fiction horror story, where for people reality gets more and more rewritten into a NFT blockchain landgrab landscape. Suddenly you start seeing and dreaming about Endless voids of undeveloped basic land plots with sparce buildings filled with AI generated NFT art which they try to sell you, and endless land of colors and impressions where everything feels flat and fake and uninspired. Because people not only build the 'Make biology into blockchains' LLMs but also made the 'try to exploit this for financial gains' LLMs. Imagine a machine creating variants of Axie infinity stomping on other bland pokemon like blobs inside your mind forever, now with integrated dating apps!

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The new one i put up has him whining about how little they got!!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

I’m not even sure I’d trust those numbers. Both because he’s not a reliable narrator, and because artificially keeping NPO numbers low and moving the bulk of the money in another channel is a fairly known game

Also the math doesn’t really check out for…checks notes SFBA existence, so there would be even more questions to ask there