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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Men will literally use an LLM instead of ~~going to therapy~~ writing documentation

[–] 200fifty@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

I mean they'll use an LLM instead of going to therapy too...

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

fucking hell. I’m almost certainly gonna see this trash at work and not know how to react to it, cause the AI fuckers definitely want any criticism of their favorite tech to be a career-limiting move (and they’ll employee any and all underhanded tactics to make sure it is, just like at the height of crypto) but I really don’t want this nonsense anywhere near my working environment

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen a few LLM generated C++ code changes at my work. Which is horrifying.

  • One was complete nonsense on it's face and never should have been sent out. The reviewer was basically like "what is this shit" only polite.
  • One was subtly wrong, it looked like that one probably got committed... I didn't say anything because not my circus.

No one's sent me any AI generated code yet, but if and when it happens I'll add whoever sent it to me as one of the code reviewers if it looks like they hadn't read it :) (probably the pettiest trolling I can get away with in a corporation)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure that my response in that situation would get me fired. I mean, I'd start with "how many trees did you burn and how many Kenyans did you call the N-word in order to implement this linked list" and go from there.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Possible countermeasure: Insist on “crediting” the LLM as the commit author, to regain sanity when doing git blame.

I agree that worse doc is a bad enough future, though I remain optimistic that including LLM in compile step is never going to be mainstream enough (or anything approaching stable enough, beyond some dumb useless smoke and mirrors) for me to have to deal with THAT.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This also fails as a viable path because version shift (who knows what model version and which LLM deployment version the thing was at, etc etc), but this isn’t the place for that discussion I think

This did however give me the enticing idea that a viable attack vector may be dropping “produced by chatgpt” taglines in things - as malicious compliance anywhere it may cause a process stall

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eternal September: It's Coming From Inside The House Edition

I hear you on the issues of the coworkers though... already seen that overrun in a few spaces, and I don't really have a good response to it either. just stfu'ing also doesn't really work well, because then that shit just boils internally

[–] counteractor@mastodon.social 6 points 1 year ago

@froztbyte @self “not ready for production use”

Implying it will ever be ready