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Norway’s prime minister says the Israeli army’s response to the deadly Hamas attack that killed 1,400 people and saw over 230 abducted by terrorists has been disproportionate, and denounces a “catastrophic” humanitarian situation in Gaza.

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[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Demographics don't back that up. It seems more like those who can emigrate away from the Strip as soon as they can and those who stay have had an incredibly high birth rate. That's why the strip has almost doubled in population since 2000.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's Wikipedia. And with a reported death rate around 600 per 100,000 they're either the healthiest country in the world or these numbers are highly suspect.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be that way, but the historical numbers are from the PCBS they could be wrong systemically; but I don't know of a better source.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It still smells like a massive undercount. If you gave me that number for a Western country it would be ridiculous too. It's just not a realistic number.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems more like if the number had agreed with your assertion instead of refuted it you'd have accepted the source as generally accurate.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't offer you any proof because this is the Internet but I just really don't like bad data. It gets used for rhetoric all the time and it's exhausting to track down. In this case though, for reference, a normal deaths per 100k in a well supplied, peaceful, western country, is 800 to 900. To put forward these numbers in a poorly supplied middle eastern warzone is ridiculous.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but I just really don't like bad data. It gets used for rhetoric all the time and it's exhausting to track down

Okay, but you're using no data for bad rhetoric.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's plenty of corroboration for the treatment I speak of in news articles.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

I'd certainly love to see a summary of it.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a better source, or an explanation for why this agency would lie?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. Sometimes we just don't have good data.