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Norway’s prime minister says the Israeli army’s response to the deadly Hamas attack that killed 1,400 people and saw over 230 abducted by terrorists has been disproportionate, and denounces a “catastrophic” humanitarian situation in Gaza.

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[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be that way, but the historical numbers are from the PCBS they could be wrong systemically; but I don't know of a better source.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It still smells like a massive undercount. If you gave me that number for a Western country it would be ridiculous too. It's just not a realistic number.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems more like if the number had agreed with your assertion instead of refuted it you'd have accepted the source as generally accurate.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't offer you any proof because this is the Internet but I just really don't like bad data. It gets used for rhetoric all the time and it's exhausting to track down. In this case though, for reference, a normal deaths per 100k in a well supplied, peaceful, western country, is 800 to 900. To put forward these numbers in a poorly supplied middle eastern warzone is ridiculous.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but I just really don't like bad data. It gets used for rhetoric all the time and it's exhausting to track down

Okay, but you're using no data for bad rhetoric.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's plenty of corroboration for the treatment I speak of in news articles.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

I'd certainly love to see a summary of it.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a better source, or an explanation for why this agency would lie?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. Sometimes we just don't have good data.