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[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's...actually a really good idea. Commercial real estate is always claimed to be tanking thanks to corporate work from home initiatives. So, turning into offices into homes can relatively immediately expand the supply of housing as opposed to the much costlier investment of developing houses from the ground up.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The problem though isn't a lack of housing, we actually have plenty for everyone. The problem is corporations buying up homes to rent them and in the process jacking up home prices.

If all these newly made homes are left to the tender mercies of the market there won't be a slew of new homeowners. Just more rentals.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Well it is both, suburban hell doesn’t scale up, it’s meant to be exclusionary.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've said this before, but Seattle actually had all of the rental corporations using one rental service that chose the prices for the rentals. Meaning, they were price fixing our rental market.

If you're a tourist market like Seattle, the corporations buying up apartment buildings for airbnb's is also a huge problem.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/new-lawsuit-alleges-price-fixing-at-seattle-area-apartment-buildings/

Yup. This shit needs to be illegal nationwide. They literally encourage vacancies in order to keep pricing going upward and coordinate pricing in order to keep profits maximized. It's gross and these fucks should be vilified.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Location is a major issue. A lot of empty housing stock is in places no one wants to live in anymore. There is a lack of housing in high demand areas. There's no silver bullet, but converting commercial real estate in those high demand areas is ideal to add useful housing.

But yes, corporations sucking up residential real estate needs to be tackled just the same.

[–] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To say nothing of the massive expense of remodeling those commercial properties to actually work as residential. When it comes to the big multistory buildings in the larger cities that need it most, the plumbing alone would be a nightmare, along with splitting up all the electric service so individual usage can be metered. And then you have to gut and rebuild the interiors to split everything up and still have proper fire code compliance.

I love the idea and I hope it gains traction but logistically and financially there are some tall hurdles to overcome to implement this properly.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Fine you won't return to the office from WFH, we'll make the office the home, checkmate employee!

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope they work on fucking the investment property market as well.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I've said for a while that vacancy taxes should be extremely painful. Like 10% of the land/structure value per month, increasing 2% every month after that.

They're gonna need to because 'Hey corporate land owner, were gonna make all this residentia' is gonna scare a lot of rich people. Which would be fine if we didn't run a market economy that collapsed if rich people get scared.