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Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake
(www.theverge.com)
this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2023
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Canonical also tried this a few years ago with their Ubuntu Touch crowdfunding and failed. Even released some convergent devices but that didn't sell much. My impression is that although the concept is cool it is simply not appealing for the general audience
People want software and a functioning phone. Linux, in all its glory, is not for consumers.
The only hope we had was Microsoft, but that’s a joke in itself.
So unless someone wants to try to take on Google, and toss billions at it, it’s just one shitty android form after the other.
Android is Linux.
Guess we should tell everyone using Android phones and Chromebooks that their devices aren't actually ready for consumers. Everyone with Steam Decks should get rid of them too.
Should probably also extend that to Unix. Maybe some day MacOS, iOS, PlayStation OS, Nintendo's OS, etc will be ready for consumers
The issue isn't Linux. The issue is that spearheading a new system in a highly competitive market is hard. Microsoft didn't use Linux and they still failed, despite buying a massive well-loved brand and investing several billion
Shit, HTC and LG couldn't stay alive, Sony are a shadow of their former selves in the phone market. And they didn't even have to worry about pushing a whole new software experience.
Why are people downvoting ? Yes I love Linux too and all, but be honest. It is not relevant in the mass desktop market. That didn’t make it more easy for Ubuntu touch.
People are downvoting because it was an ill-informed comment.
The issue isn't Linux. A large majority of phones use Linux, as do many other consumer devices. Saying "Linux isn't for consumers" is extremely daft.
Ubuntu's phone efforts didn't fail because it ran Linux, it failed because almost all phone brands do unless they have Chinese backing.
Microsoft pumped billions into smartphones and failed. Was it because of Linux? No. Windows phone didn't run Linux. So I guess by the above logic, Windows isn't suitable for consumers?
Shit, HTC and LG are big names that died in the phone space despite not having the hard job of creating their own ecosystem. Samsung has walked back on Tizen and a bunch of other in-house stuff and started shifting back to Google services. Sony is only surviving by abandoning the mass market.
Because people like to downvote.
Linux on Desktop is fine, because it's had a long time to mature and improve.
The problem is that Linux mobile software is very immature, so it isn't ready for a general audience yet.
Android is Linux
And why do we need waydroid in order to install android apk on postmarkedOS?
Android does use the Linux kernel, they're right, but the userspace is completely different and what I was referring to.
I was referring to standard GNU/Linux or Busybox/Linux, not the heavily modified Android.