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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Ok. Chrome sucks. Brave sucks. What’s good. Firefox?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 244 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Firefox with good plugins is even better!

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely! Another really good fork of FF to check out is Floorp I'm thinking of making it my main and going steady :) https://floorp.app/en/

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless browser fingerprinting is your concern, in which case the most generic, unmodified browser is best (e.g. Tor).

But that is a huge topic for another thread.

[–] finn_der_mensch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Overall you‘re right but in which world is tor generic and unmodified 😂

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The Tor browser is a modified version of Firefox, but you are not meant to modify the Tor Browser, in order for everyone using the Tor Browser to look the same and blend in. This is done for maximum privacy and anonymity.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It's not possible to identify you if you use the tor browser without changing the window size or any other settings, because the fingerprint is literally the same amongst everyone that uses it this way. So you kind of blend in with the masses, it's neither generic nor unmodified, I give you that :D

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And LibreWolf is better. It's Firefox with all of the privacy settings preconfigured and uBlock Origin preinstalled. Also, crap like Sponsored sites and Pocket are removed.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Been very happy with Librewolf. Thought it would be another one of those softwares recommended by linux-losers but which never actually works, but it's quite the opposite.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is LibreWolf still a version or two behind on Gecko?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK the most recent Firefox version is 118.0.2 and LibreWolf is based on that

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Word. Last I had looked, they lagged a version or two behind on the base FF version. Likely just a lack of contributors or something then. Ty.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is Librewolf different from Mullvad browser, which is supposed to be Tor browser (hardened FF) without the Tor?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Mullvad Browser is based on the Tor browser, but it doesn't use the Tor network, whereas LibreWolf is based on Firefox + arkenfox user.js. LibreWolf is better for normal day-to-day browsing, where as Mullvad is meant to be used for high privacy/security tasks. Mullvad is kinda hard to daily drive, because it can't be configured to save cookies, you can't really use extensions and it lacks some other things. These features were removed in the Tor browser, because as I said, it's meant for high thread model usage. Edit: I like the Mullvad browser and I use it myself, but not as my daily driver.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Waterfox is similar, though it doesn’t install additional extensions but comes with a bit of look and feel customization options instead. It restores those non-floating tabs from quantum by default and is pretty speedy.

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[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the only thing greater than Firefox is Librewolf.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Or hardened Firefox, which is pretty much the same thing (I use Librewolf myself for convenience).

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I love Firefox, used it for years. However I eventually had to switch because of weird bugs and issues with functioning sites. In my sparing personal usage I didn’t run into many issues, but using it at work I ran into really weird issues all the time.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm team Firefox, very happy here. There's a small amount of optional telemetry to disable to maximise your privacy, and it has the best plugins because there's a lot of choice and they're not purposely crippled.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Plus you can use pretty much any plugin on mobile. this is the biggest feature for me.

[–] kirk781@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like Firefox because it allows, Atleast for now, customization via userchrome.css files. I once tried Edge and hated it's bloated right click context menu. Meanwhile, in Firefox, I can trim down the context menu to only basic elements.

I do wish Firefox had proper PWA support, but otherwise I have been using it as the main browser on both PC and phone(since uBlock Origin is supported on it, the only Chromium browser to support it is Kiwi Browser on Android).

[–] spielhoelle@hachyderm.io 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@kirk781 @Deebster I’m using this, I’m not satisfied with the solution but that’s what we’ve got https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/

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[–] AzureRT@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's probably an addon for Firefox that gives some PWA support

[–] kirk781@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There does exists one. But when I last tried it, the experience was worse than what a native integration would give. It wasn't streamlined as in other browsers. It doesn't matter much since I only use YouTube Music as a PWA, which I have a relegated to another window in another browser.

Off topic, but screw you Google, for not giving a native app. Spotify meanwhile has command line third party clients even(looks at ncspot) for Premium users.

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[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox and Mull (a Firefox fork) have your privacy in mind. They work as good as Chrome and don't fuck you without asking.

[–] kirk781@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

There is Fennec available on F Droid that is basically Firefox with some blobs removed. Not as hardened as Mull but still a worthy option. There is one more browser based on Firefox called Iceraven for Android but it is not available on F Droid even. Though it supports a much wider variety of extensions than mobile Firefox does as of now. The downside is that it gets security updates usually later than Firefox, being an independent project.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Firefox is the least sucky.

[–] gothicdecadence@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] decivex@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cool, that kinda looks like vivaldi except based on firefox.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's the closest I've been able to find to vivaldi. Unfortunately no one does workspaces as good as vivaldi, but their implementation deleted all my workspaces one day, with no back up, and that was after several other total wipes of my windows/tabs.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox, or on mobile, Fennec. It's a Firefox clone with some added functionality, maintained by the developers of the F-Droid app store themselves, so highly trusted & fully compatible to stay in sync with the desktop Firefox.

For those rare occasions where a website absolutely doesn't work with FF, and you must use it for some reason, I'd suggest Chromium portable on Desktop, and Kiwi Browser on mobile.

[–] kirk781@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have Kiwi installed and like that desktop Chrome extensions can be installed on it for the odd occasion. However, IIRC, it is updated infrequently and isn't recommended as a daily driver.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

I'd never use it as a daily driver, really just for websites that absolutely don't work with Firefox/Fennec. Happens very infrequent if at all though.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Overland@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s got its problem but it’s my preference

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