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By Henri Astier BBC News


Israel has suggested that the long-term aim of its military campaign in Gaza is to sever all links with the territory.

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant said that once Hamas had been defeated, Israel would end its "responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip".

Before the conflict, Israel supplied Gaza with most of its energy needs and monitored imports into the territory.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 84 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It's disengenuous. People complain about Gaza not having enough of its own water or electricity infrastructure and relying on Israel, but up until now Israel has required Gaza to get their permission on any new construction. So Israel have been holding Gaza hostage via water and now they're cutting them off and making excuses for it.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn't help when the government in the region digs up infrastructure to construct weapons with and makes hype videos about it.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago (45 children)

Man good point. Glad the Israelis aren't using any weapons that are disproportionately more effective on a captive populace. The prisoners shouldn't fight back against their oppressor through whatever desperate means they have available. Please die and suffer in silence, Palestinians.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's very true, however I don't believe Gaza had sufficient water supplies even before then.

The whole issue is a mess, with so many bad actors on both sides.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gaza has a sizeable aquifer and it's received enough aid where it could have and should have built desalination plants to augment it's water supply (but instead spent that money on Condos in Qatar).

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

*Have been routinely denied permit, it's been a thing for awhile.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/

You can blame Hamas for being shitty but they wouldn't have support without Israel being shitty. Stop trying to point fingers, everyone is to blame and no one here has the moral high ground.

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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

When the ruling party have publicly stated and action supported main goal in destruction of Jewish state, it is called security measure.

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Destroy people's homes, utilities, food, etc, then pulling out and saying "not my problem" while people die from lack of basic necessities and medical care as a result of Israel's destruction and Israel does a pikashocked face while continuing to do whatever they can to limit aid getting in still seems pretty bad. Like, better than stealing the Territory...

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a long term goal, not immediate goal. Having Palestine state (without Hamas) responsible for itself is a good thing.

[–] buzziebee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Seeing promising things about a 2 state solution being discussed at the Cairo peace summit. Let's hope after the violence cooler heads prevail and we can see a lasting peace in the region.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would just expect another militant group to take their place. Every bombing essentially creates a new radicals. Would you really expect Palestinians to just forget about all their dead realitives?

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope they will remember why they have dead relatives. A lot of Germans died too during WW2, but they did make right conclusions.

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[–] anteaters@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Well it'll be a DMZ inside Gaza with a very hard border that nothing may cross so it will all be Egypt's problem.