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Sen. John Fetterman (D-Penn.) called some of his colleagues’ quickness to blame Israel for the hospital blast in Gaza “disturbing” in a statement Wednesday.

“It’s truly disturbing that Members of Congress rushed to blame Israel for the hospital tragedy in Gaza,” Fetterman said in a post on X, formerly Twitter.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a LOT of mental gymnastics (and made up bullshit) when there is tons of actual, real-world evidence that a terrorist's misfired rocket damaged the hospital, and that the terrorists lied about the casualty numbers.

This is Q-cult level nonsense just to avoid reality man

[–] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Dude, they did MATHS, that's science™.

[–] kava@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please show me where I made something up. I believe with near 100% certainty that I made mistakes in that comment. If you see one, please tell me.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I already called out your most offensive lie in another post.

For further clarity, this is also deliberately misleading, and is obviously intentional if you're truly as knowledgeable as you claim

Israeli military had demanded the hospital evacuate multiple times before the attack on Oct 17

Israeli military has been hitting hospitals and civilian areas since Oct 17

Your description of the Afghanistan hospital bombing is similarly misleading.

Frankly, most of your post is falsehood and conjecture based on falsehood.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israeli military had demanded the hospital evacuate multiple times before the attack on Oct 17

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-hospital-blast-what-we-know-about-explosion-2023-10-18/

The Kuwaiti specialized hospital in Rafah city, in the south of Gaza, said on Oct. 16 it had it had received two Israeli warnings to evacuate but its director said its staff would not leave.


Israeli military has been hitting hospitals and civilian areas since Oct 17

Here I made a mistake. It was meant to be Oct 7, the start of the conflict. Here's a map of all hospitals hit by the IDF from the 7th to the 17th. Just look it up though, they've hit universities, hospitals, mosques, etc. They hit a mosque yesterday and killed at least a dozen people - link


keep 'em coming. again i reiterate i welcome the challenges to what i'm saying and the discussion this can generate. if i am wrong i am wrong, but i'm making a good faith effort here at the truth

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not refuting anything, and there's no reason to continue to engage. I've said my piece. I don't think you're being intellectually honest, while pretending you are, and that seems intentionally misleading.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You said quote "you are making things up" and then you quoted two statements that I made

Did I make it up or not?

Either they are hitting civilian areas or they are not. If you say that they aren't, and I say that they are.. Only one of us is making a factual statement. All the evidence points to -> Yes, they are bombing civilian areas.

Maybe there's a justification. Maybe the thousands of buildings they've bombed all have Hamas weapons caches. But has it happened? Yes. End of story, I'm not making it up.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you believe Gaza has designated military or Hamas areas?

[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course not. Every single mosque, university, hospital, residential building, refugee camp, and border crossing the IDF has bombed must have had some sort of Hamas presence. Hamas is very well integrated into Gaza, they're in over 10,000 buildings.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then they didn't, now they do... I don't think you've given this much thought tbh

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't take much thought to see what's happening here. There's a reason virtually the entire world outside of US + western Europe is appalled.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

When I quote statements you make, they are examples of shit you make up, yes.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most of your post is falsehood and conjecture based on falsehood.

While yours is just "nuh-uh"...

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Google is right there

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well either you made a mistake, or the vastly more unlikely event happened, because all signs point to a failed rocket.