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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guilty of Genocide: Israeli government

I don't think it's because of lack of will or lack of trying from the Arab side

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So to be clear, what are you saying? Are you saying the genocide is justified?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would like to see the logic you used to come to that conclusion from my comment

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gladly, thanks for asking. So I started out with my general assumption that genocide is always bad. I figured most people agree with that.

Then I looked at your reply and I was like this person is listing some reasons why the Israeli government is genocideing civilians and I noticed that you lumped Palestinian civilians and Hamas into one group "Arabs". And I thought that was interesting because Arabs is a pretty large group that includes people who are unrelated to the current conflict. I also noticed that you left out one of the major reasons for the genocide which is racism. I'm sure you just forgot to list that as I think it is one of the larger reasons for doing the genocide.

Then I was trying to figure out what your comment was adding to the thread. Were you just unsure if we were aware that Hamas had killed Israeli civilians? No, my original post specified that they did.

So I was very confused as to why you made your post in the first place.

Then I remembered that some people online like the genocideing of Palestine civilians. Some people want it to keep going and for that to happen they need to make the genocide sound justified. They may do this by posting something very similar to what you posted.

Now, I don't know why you made your post, so I asked. I also wanted clarification if you thought the genocide was justified because it seems like something a pro-genocide person might post.

Now that I have written out my process, can I please get you to confirm that you think the genocide of the Palestinian civilians is bad.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was about nutty as I expected.

I was talking about Arab attempts to drive Jews "to the sea" and remove them from the area completely. You might've seen some of these calls and heard of some of these attempts. If not, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict

I'm surprised someone would take that as a pro genocide stance, but it did take some advanced logic for sure.

Now, I don't know why you made your post, so I asked. I also wanted clarification if you thought the genocide was justified because it seems like something a pro-genocide person might post.

Now that I have written out my process, can I please get you to confirm that you think the genocide of the Palestinian civilians is bad.

I'm somewhat surprised my previous reply where I made fun of you for jumping to that very assumption didn't already clarify how you were wrong. Then again, using sarcasm with someone who clearly misunderstands stuff might have been a bad move. lol

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright, so I was wrong and a big dumb dumb.

Clearly it should be extremely easy for you to say that the genocide of Palestinian civilians is bad as you were not trying to justify it. But you haven't said it yet. It's been like 2 replies. I get it, it can be hard to keep track of everything in that big brain of yours.

So here it is. I have rolled out the red carpet. I've taken the big L. All that is left is for you reply with "the genocide of Palestinian civilians is bad". Heck you can even copy it from this reply and post it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright, so I was wrong and a big dumb dumb.

Yeah

Clearly it should be extremely easy for you to say that the genocide of Palestinian civilians is bad as you were not trying to justify it

Well duh. I'm gonna even go a step further and say, get this, genocide bad, in general. Be it Palestinians or anyone else really. Quite a bold statement from me

So here it is. I have rolled out the red carpet. I've taken the big L.

Eh, it happens. Sometimes our mouths (or fingers) are just faster than our brains. Way faster. Just gotta learn from it.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good job! That was way harder than it needed to be, but I am glad we finally got there. Cheers!

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you don't realize how much of a tool you seemed through this. It might be too much for you

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry. Your link about the Arab Israeli conflict was helpful and good context.

There are just a lot of pro genocidal racists on social media and they rarely self identify because they know it looks bad.

So when you didn't answer my question directly and redirect to my thought process, I had to become a tool troll until you explicitly clarified your position on genocide.

I understand how my initial question can come off as offensive and I am sorry about that too, but you can't assume what someone's position on things are.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago