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I didn't want to direct this question to Americans specifically because, at this point, other countries have shown support to Israel in one or the other way. If my country was financing this, I would be taking the streets. Shit, I'm right now in the hospital but all I can think about is protesting anyway just to feel I did something to stop this madness.

Are you doing something about this? Are you feeling unsettled? How do you feel about all this mess?

EDIT: So, buying Chinese stuff takes the USS Gerald Ford to Gazaโ€™s coast. Also, TIL that that chocolate my cousin gave me when she was 20 and I was 5, (delicious stuff!) made me a slavist-ish. The fact remains, this genocide is being paid and supported by taxpayers money; of course, I was hoping that most of us didnโ€™t pay taxes wishing for this. Thank you all for your responses, some of them were hard to swallow.

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[โ€“] demystify@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing I'm dissatisfied with is their free hand with bombing civilians along with military targets. I can understand that Israel is angry, and rightfully so, but they fancy themselves a western country, being better than terrorist Hamas. They can't let their anger take control. Bombing civilians undermines their legitimatecy, I think they should try and be as surgical as possible, like they did in previous rounds of fighting. Other than that, I fully support their desire to root out Hamas. Though conquering Gaza only has any merit to it if they decide to stay and govern it themselves, otherwise Hamas would just rise up again.

[โ€“] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking at the geopolitics and many sides of the conflict, wouldn't other better and bigger groups join in if it comes close to the annihilation of Hamas?

Looking at Hezbollah and Iran, joining in as a minimum.

This would start making the war closer to WWIII.

Anyone with more information or confidence want to correct or add detail?

[โ€“] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This attack will energize the populations of a lot of middle-eastern regimes that have been playing footsie with Israel over the last few decades - so yeah... both in the long and short term things are looking shaky for Israel. Would it lead to WW3? Unlikely... even if Israel's geopolitical reach and importance is curbed by this, the US already has another thug regime in the area that can do it's dirty work for it - Saudi Arabia.

[โ€“] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you satisfied about they having a nuclear arsenal after this? It's not a rhetorical question, I'm actually interested in your thoughts about this.

[โ€“] demystify@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know, what does it matter? They don't even acknowledge it, nevermind about using it. The only instance in which they might use their nukes is the Samson Option, which looks like something any country would do.

[โ€“] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It matters because it changes all logics in a war. In this case, I think it matters because you described them as angry, bombing civilians along with military targets. If they don't differentiate one of the other, the only thing stopping them from nuking the Gaza stripe is probably the inconvenience of being too close.

[โ€“] demystify@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I see. No, they're not that stupid. Even if nuking Gaza didn't affect them because of proximity, they wouldn't. They rely on American help too much, and struggle as they do with international forces. Nuking Gaza would leave them ostricized and heavily sanctioned, if not invaded.