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That sounds pretty useless then, if a community is diverse in terms of instance membership. Only a small portion of people will see the version of the thread without the removed content.
And that small portion of people would never know that content was taken away from them.
Sounds like censoring with extra steps.
I mean, you pick your instance for that stuff. If you value "free" speech over the wellbeing of minorities, then you join an instance that doesn't remove stuff.
If you're on an instance like mine, that is specifically focused on being a space for vulnerable folk, then removing horrible shit, even just locally, is a big positive.
So wait, let me sure I understand this; an admin of an instance removes a comment posted to a community on their instance, but the comment is still visible to everyone outside of that instance? But a moderator can make it a 'real' removal. If that's the case why would that admin be ok with the moderators of that community not also removing that comment? If they own the servers, why do they even need a moderator to do this for them to broadly remove the comment? This seems like a very strange way for it to work.
Admin removals not federating for groups they don't moderate is important, or troll admins could just delete everything in every group simply by spinning up a throw away instance.
Admins can also make themselves mods on communities hosted on their instance.
And the reason for the distinction is that communities often have rules beyond the instance. We host 196 for example, which is incredibly busy. I have no desire to watch all of the posts and moderate off topic posts or posts that forget to mention "the rule". So I watch for abusive users and other stuff that requires an admin, and leave the community rules to the mods
Because different instances have different rules. And communities have their own rules. wait till you learn that you only see coversations from the people your instance federates with. You could be seeing half the comments of a thread if the federation overlap between your instance and the host instance are not exactly the same.