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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes sense if you think about it like basic marketing

But the thing is Youtube already promoted channels through it's algorithm. Having to pay for it implies that something has changed regarding it.

[–] sab@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think what's worse is that the content seemed to be less visible even to his subscribers. The discoverability of your content to new people who are not actively looking for it is one thing, bit hiding it from people who have actively said they want to view it is another thing entirely.

[–] FistfulOfStars@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the content seemed to be less visible even to his subscribers

Am I the only one who still uses the subscriptions page? I get a chronological list of all my subscribed channel's video releases. I have seen zero indication that I'm missing anything at all, and I fairly frequently go to channel's pages to check that my subscription list is complete.

I've never clicked a single notification bell, and don't rely on the home page's recommendations/sorting, unless I'm actively seeking out new recommendations.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it became clear to me that the main discovery page on youtube would never be of any use to me when it suggested a video entitled “Andrew Tate Tucker Carlson Interview” by the channel “Gentleman Masterclass” and i almost projectile vomited all over my keyboard

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I try to give as little data about myself to Google as possible, so I do not maintain subscriptions on YouTube. The recommendations from youtube are awful beyond belief. And somehow the search function is even worse - I really cannot find shit other than whatever their algorithm wants to push on me.

One example: searching for Buddy Holly gives me the video "My drummer said that RINGO sucks, so I dared him to play THIS Beatles beat" as one of the first results, along with a video I've already watched of Chuck Berry jamming out with Keith Richards. On which fucking universe is this what I would be looking for with that search term. Meanwhile, even slightly obscure live recordings are almost impossible to find.

YouTube has made itself practically worthless to me. I don't want to spend my life watching what their algorithm wants to shove down my throat, and the way it currently works it's hardly any good for watching anything else.

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you're in whatever the opposite of a sweet spot is. If you want better recommendations, you have to rate and maintain a subscription page. It takes information -- a lot of it -- to get a good personalized feed.

I've found my home page to be very useful -- it even recognizes I want to watch certain channels at different times of day.

[–] sab@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I'm bringing it on myself by not allowing them to create a good profile for me. I do, however, believe that the search function worked much better a few years ago. I don't really want content recommended to me on the front page, but it still amazes me how hard they are trying to become TikTok in the recommendations I do get served.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

I've only ever used the subscription page

[–] nofunberg@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

You are not the only person who just uses Subscriptions. I do, too.

And I am considering using rss to track channel updates instead of Subscriptions so I can see what’s new without going to YouTube directly. Less likely to get hit by distractions.