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[–] emma@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is the second richest terror organisation. Funding from Iran but they also grift 13% of all aid money going into Gaza via charges for currency conversion. "Not for resale" aid food products are routinely sold for profit in Gaza.

Hamas routinely chooses military spending over social spending. It's always been their way.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"The second richest terror organization" is like talking about the second toughest fifth grader when discussing whether a prize fighter needs help in a one on one fight.

Hamas routinely chooses military spending over social spending. It’s always been their way.

How is this remotely relevant? It's like you just scanned for keywords and then remixed them to make an irrelevant comparison.

[–] emma@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

False equivalence from you there. Oh so false. I'm pointing out some of the flaws in your thinking. Don't downplay Hamas' resources.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're downplaying Israel's resources lol

Israel's occupation of Palestine makes the Xinjiang situation look downright utopian. Education? Jobs? Infrastructure?

[–] emma@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Oh you truly do not understand the situation with Palestine if you think it's worse than Xinjiang. Would probably be good to reconsider your "sources" for this, someone's misleading you badly.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you forgetting how the Americans funded the American Revolution against Britain?

When living under constant suppression, inequality, and a state of war (and a blockade IS a state of war), are you really looking for a peaceful solution?

[–] emma@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Are you naive enough to think Hamas is open to a peaceful solution? Their f-ing charter calls for slaughtering Jews OUTSIDE of Israel as well as annihilating those inside.

No peaceful solution is currently possible. There isn't any solution at all right now.

If it weren't for the blockade and the security fence, the horrors of Saturday's massacres would be standard. Hamas shows you exactly who they are and you're blaming Israel for taking necessary measures to reduce terrorism? Israel isn't perfect but my word, understand who Hamas are and how much responsibility they have for conditions in Gaza.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hamas doesn't get it's support because people woke up and decided to be radical Islamists lol

It takes years of oppression, inequality, and discrimination to radicalize most people.

[–] emma@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

LOL. No. Jihad against Jews existed long before Hamas become an organisation for a small part of it. Your grasp of both history and current events isn't anywhere near as solid as you seem to think it is. The gap in your logic and knowledge here is a chasm.