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[–] 312@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is Musk’s “Reichstag Fire” moment for Twitter.

The rate limiting is not because of “extreme manipulation”, but because of piss-poor code that Twitter deployed as part of their change to only allow tweets to be viewed if logged in. Twitter is effectively DDoSing itself right now. But, it creates an opportunity for Musk to create a narrative.

These “temporary” limits will probably remain inevitably, as they provide another benefit to Twitter - they drive Blue subscriptions. Unfortunately, they also repel free users from using the platform entirely, and at a much higher ratio.

Twitter is going to become even more of a cesspool than it already is at an alarming rate. Crazy how many established social media platforms have decided to crumble at the exact same time.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh my god, this is just too funny.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"The DDOS is coming from INSIDE the HOUSE!"

[–] lunarmedic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My lord. And they can't/won't piece 1+1 together? Hanlon's razor dictates they are indeed idiots.

[–] 312@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

In order to quickly fix it they would probably have to roll back the change to require login to view tweets, which would be admitting that it wasn’t caused by “attacks” on Twitter, which Elon won’t do. Rock and a hard place.

[–] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

you commented 3 times btw

[–] Seven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Elon was right, firing off many engineers didn't cause any DDoS attack from outside- as DDoS attacks are now happening from within

[–] coldv@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I find it especially bizarre that spez took inspiration and guidance from Musk. I can entertain the possibility of Musk intentionally driving Twitter to the ground (though he sure is taking the scenic route), but Reddit? It just seems like the rich tech bros have collectively lost their minds

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You can't lose something you never had

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They never had their minds. They just now have enough money to make that all of our problems... This is why no one deserves billions of dollars. It makes you go megalomaniacle.

[–] Friend_of_your_moms@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I really don’t believe at all that he would intentionally drive it to the ground. I can see him claiming that if he manages to actually kill it tho

[–] Haha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tsz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. While he loves to talk about how little reddit makes, he doesn't mention how much reddit pays him for that.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

It goes deeper than that.

This all started with the API changes. Before they were charging a fair price for the API and companies happily paid it for the convenience. Then Elon got greedy he started charging a ridiculous amount for the API so those companies decided it would be worth it to just deal with the annoyance and switch to scraping the website instead. But when you hit the website it's way less efficient than hitting the API because it's doing a bunch of mixing and ranking which is a lot more complicated and costly than serving static content, which costs a small fraction of real time algorithmic ranking. So now instead of making money off companies that want their data they're losing money on the cloud costs to serve the scrapers.

More recently, they haven't been paying their hosting bills to Google and their service was set to expire at the end of last month. What just happened at the start of this month? They added the limitations. That can't be a coincidence. Now the Google services weren't hosting the site itself, otherwise they'd probably be fully down right now, but it was hosting their trust and safety services for things like fighting spam. That could have also been hosting anti scraper services as well. Since they're so under staffed they probably couldn't swap the services in time, so instead of having anti scraping services like every other big company on the internet, they decided to cut service instead. It's just built up incompetence coming to a head.