this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
1439 points (97.7% liked)

News

23367 readers
2951 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Mike Dulak grew up Catholic in Southern California, but by his teen years, he began skipping Mass and driving straight to the shore to play guitar, watch the waves and enjoy the beauty of the morning. “And it felt more spiritual than any time I set foot in a church,” he recalled.

Nothing has changed that view in the ensuing decades.

“Most religions are there to control people and get money from them,” said Dulak, now 76, of Rocheport, Missouri. He also cited sex abuse scandals in Catholic and Southern Baptist churches. “I can’t buy into that,” he said.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Staying in your lane" is the exact opposite of what Christians and Muslims are explicitly ordered to do. Convert acquisition is the primary objective of both faiths.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The Bible says if a family member considers another religion (or you just suspect they are) it's your duty to God to kill them before it spreads to other people in your family.

It's why ill never trust the people who claim they have to follow the bible literally. Either they don't know what it says, or they're absolute psychos.

Edit:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2013:6-10&version=KJV

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I heard somewhere that it is written in the bible that those who scorn the bible will be visited by apocalypse, fire, earthquake, and flood which will obliterate your cities, but for those who believe in the bible will save themselves and find true redemption.

And I also heard somewhere it may have also stated in the Bible that the power and the greatness of God cannot be denied. Those who reject the Path to enlightenment must be destroyed.

[–] M0ty@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It talks to Jews in ancient Israel about gods of nations that surrounded them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh...

So some of it is outdated and we shouldn't follow the bible literally?

I already don't, you better go tell the Christians to shut the fuck up about LGBTQ...

[–] M0ty@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good job on discovering dispensationalism. About LGBT, there isn't a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn't put in a positive light

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

About LGBT, there isn’t a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn’t put in a positive light

It's hard to tell what you were trying to say, but any attempt to clarify that is going to make it really easy to point out how wrong you are.

So I don't expect you to even try

Btw:

For anyone wondering what "dispensationalism" means, it's a thing Christians invented so they can ignore the parts of the bible that they don't agree with. While saying the parts they do believe in are the literal words of God and have to be followed.

It's a shitty cop out

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

About LGBT, there isn’t a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn’t put in a positive light

That's just simple not true.

In the old testament it says that all homosexuals must be killed, and in the new testament that homosexuals cannot go to heaven.

How is that a positive light?

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly this.

Dont forget the part about having as many children as possible and convert them too.

There is no religion telling their servants to love their children even if they are not religious.