this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
134 points (99.3% liked)

Ask Lemmy

26753 readers
1376 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably the most important part of that page is that Wikipedia asks people for donations when they already have enough money to exist perpetually. All the money people donate simply goes to executives' salaries.

WMF's salary costs have risen from $7 million in 2010/11 to $88 million in 2021/22. Yet, only 2% of the raised money goes towards hosting costs, and the remuneration for the hard-working contributors to Wikipedia remains the same: zero.

[–] peregrine_falcon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's all untrue or misrepresentation. There aren't that many executives and while money does get misused, that's not where it's going - instead some of it is going to grants and other programs that aren't very important to the mission. However, quite a lot of donations go to very important projects, such as lawyers to keep editors in repressive countries out of jail, programmers to keep the website going, etc etc.

"2%" is a misrepresentation because programmer and operations salaries are a lot more than that and they're equally important to keeping the lights on. If I own and operate a server for a website, then clearly my salary is part of what it takes to run the website even if it's not included in "hosting".

"Renumeration" is a red herring as paying contributors is obviously a non-starter.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally just copy and pasted from the wiki page the person above me linked to.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Wiki has a weird cult around it.

I remember right before the reddit migration there were a surge of wiki related memes about paying Wikipedia instead of doing this or that and it felt super weird.

I always wondered if it was paid shilling or if it was organic users who just loved Wikipedia so much they felt the need to make a bunch of memes about giving them money