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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 87 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Trump can't be Speaker for five reasons:

  1. Endangered Republicans from Biden districts won't vote for him, or they're doomed

  2. He has no understanding of House rules or procedures

  3. He's going to be spending most days in court, losing his businesses and facing felony jail time.

  4. Being speaker involves forming coalitions with other people

  5. Too much work

[–] FatLegTed@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago
  1. Not enough days off to play golf.
[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

trump can fill the role in their minds for all those same reasons:

  1. Endangered republicans would need a spine to push back. Doubtful.

  2. Understanding of rules and procedures meant nothing when he was president. They don’t care, they want a figure head who will bend / break whatever rules (written or unwritten)to “hurt the people he should be hurting”. There will never be a day that they look at rules and think “well that’s prob too much for the wrecking ball, never mind I guess.”

  3. Fuck the courts in their minds. It’s all fake charges/witch hunt/circus/conspiracy babies blah blah blah. Remember, they deny/make up reality as they go along. I’m sure at one point instead of claiming “immunity” from presidential acts, trump will then shift to immunity from those cases because of speaker shit.

  4. When did trump or the republican party care about coalitions? Sure that’s a skill that would help make them effective, but it didnt stop trump from firing and hiring record amounts of staff, losing record amounts to indictments, and burning every bridge in town. Only to be potentially nominated for speakership by the lowest of the low. Coalitions are for people who don’t care about fucking 50% of the country via 15-20% of a party. There’s been 4 years of evidence how that played out with trump.

  5. When did trump ever do the work in the first place? He golfed more in 4 years than any other president did in. 8.

Let’s be clear. Trump would be considered for the speakership by the GOP purely for 2 reasons, to fuck Joe Biden every chance, and to encourage enough stochastic terrorism such that a maga loving shitbird shoots the President and Vp to open up a path for republican assholes.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Mostly reason #5 tho

[–] schema@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would actually happen when the house speaker doesn't show up for work?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first thing that will happen is that nothing will happen, the speaker controls the floor, which means without the Speaker no legislation is passed.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This seems like a win from the perspective of MAGA’s

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

1 is the only reason he lilkely won't win a nomination vote, the rest are reasons people might actually vote for him. There's people to keep the rules and procedures straight for you, and the last 3 are great reasons that all but the most basic and necessary bills would be killed, and even some of them would be in jeopardy.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen his cult? I'd say the guy is scary good at forming coalitions.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He is, was, and always has been a conman. He's scary good at convincing morons to hand him money, and that's pretty much his one and only skill. That's very different from forming a coalition which is about getting people that barely tolerate each other to agree to work together.

On the topic of how rabid his fans are, I wonder how much sunk cost fallacy plays into the whole thing. Like once you hand a big chunk of money to the orange turd do you continue to back him no matter what because to change your mind would be to admit you wasted all that money?