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Stack Overflow has seen a substantial decline in traffic over the last year that appears to be accelerating. https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

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[–] harmonea@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of the comments here seem to be arguing whether it's better to get help now from SO or ChatGPT, but this is a pretty short-sighted mindset.

What happens when the next new standard comes out that ChatGPT hasn't been trained on? If SO tanks and dies, where will you go?

I'm not saying use a lesser resource, I'm saying this is kinda tragic and I hope they can sustain themselves; AI is propped up by human input and can't train itself.

[–] gosling@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it really though? It seems to me that once you nail the general intelligence, you'll just need to provide the supplemental information (e.g. new documentations) for it to give an accurate response.

Bing already somewhat does this by connecting their bot to internet searches

LLMs do not relate to general intelligence in any manner.

[–] gnus_migrate@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're not able to properly define general intelligence, let alone build something that qualifies as intelligent.

[–] gosling@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

I can think of four aspects needed to emulate human response: basic knowledge on various topics, logical reasoning, contextual memory, and ability to communicate; and ChatGPT seems to possess all four to a certain degree.

Regardless of what you think is or isn't intelligent, for programming help you just need something to go through tons of text and present the information most likely to help you, maybe modify it a little to fit your context. That doesn't sound too far fetched considering what we have today and how much information are available on the internet

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We will go to the documentation.

[–] gnus_migrate@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, if people are going to go back to reading manuals like we're in the 1980's again is it such a bad thing? /s

It's insane how a single tool managed to completely destroy the value collectively created by people in over a decade.

[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That single tool is still propped up by that collective decade of knowledge. ChatGPT would be nothing without sites like stackoverflow

[–] gnus_migrate@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but will people still care about contributing that information if they're not going to be compensated for it in any way? Like people get something out of contributing to stack overflow, even if it's just recognition. This is gone with ChatGPT.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't that the FOSS model since ever?