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[–] Sacha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"He/his" used for be acceptable for people/things of unknown gender as well. Point out a random animal on a walk to your parents and there's a high chance that they will use male pronouns.

In some obscure mmo I played as a kid, someone was referring to a famous mod with male pronouns, going how it is acceptable If you don't know the gender and it's more polite than the alternatives. Now this was long, long, long before agender, and other gendered terms were really a known thing. If you were to told someone you were gender fluid or something like that, they would look at you like you just grew a second head. I don't quite remember what was said, or why it was being talked about, it was around 20 years ago now. Things have changed since then.

I still fall back on the male pronoun default from time to time, but I try not to as much. But it is a learned behavior that is hard to break entirely.

[–] amio@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Sure. But also, I was a 90s kid too(?) - computers were boy stuff, dont'y'know, and girls should go play with dolls instead. Pedantically, I don't think it was correct to use when unknown, it was just that the "chance of being wrong" was a lot smaller because we really did assume "anyone in position X has to be a man" a lot more the further back you go. Even if it's just the 90-00s.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man used to be synonymous with human. For instance, when people talk about humans in prehistory, they might use the phrase "early man." In that context, the word "man" is gender neutral.

[–] Sacha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It still is neutral in that sense, but thst wasn't the sense I was talking about.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you're quick, once you've accidentally defaulted to he, you can quick add the she, and then a they, for he/she/they