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These experts on AI are here to help us understand important things about AI.

Who are these generous, helpful experts that the CBC found, you ask?

"Dr. Muhammad Mamdani, vice-president of data science and advanced analytics at Unity Health Toronto", per LinkedIn a PharmD, who also serves in various AI-associated centres and institutes.

"(Jeff) Macpherson is a director and co-founder at Xagency.AI", a tech startup which does, uh, lots of stuff with AI (see their wild services page) that appears to have been announced on LinkedIn two months ago. The founders section lists other details apart from J.M.'s "over 7 years in the tech sector" which are interesting to read in light of J.M.'s own LinkedIn page.

Other people making points in this article:

C. L. Polk, award-winning author (of Witchmark).

"Illustrator Martin Deschatelets" whose employment prospects are dimming this year (and who knows a bunch of people in this situation), who per LinkedIn has worked on some nifty things.

"Ottawa economist Armine Yalnizyan", per LinkedIn a fellow at the Atkinson Foundation who used to work at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.

Could the CBC actually seriously not find anybody willing to discuss the actual technology and how it gets its results? This is archetypal hood-welded-shut sort of stuff.

Things I picked out, from article and round table (before the video stopped playing):

Does that Unity Health doctor go back later and check these emergency room intake predictions against actual cases appearing there?

Who is the "we" who have to adapt here?

AI is apparently "something that can tell you how many cows are in the world" (J.M.). Detecting a lack of results validation here again.

"At the end of the day that's what it's all for. The efficiency, the productivity, to put profit in all of our pockets", from J.M.

"You now have the opportunity to become a Prompt Engineer", from J.M. to the author and illustrator. (It's worth watching the video to listen to this person.)

Me about the article:

I'm feeling that same underwhelming "is this it" bewilderment again.

Me about the video:

Critical thinking and ethics and "how software products work in practice" classes for everybody in this industry please.

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[–] wagesj45@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

who don’t know how to implement it

He didn't say anything about replacing them. Certain tedious aspects that get farmed out to junior devs the AI will certainly be able to do, especially under supervision of a developer. Junior devs that refuse to learn how to use and implement the AI probably will get left behind.

AI won't replace anyone for a long time (probably). What it will do is bring about a new paradigm on how we work, and people who don't get on board will be left behind, like all the boomers that refuse to learn how to open PDF files, except it'll happen much quicker than the analogue-to-digital transition did and the people effected will be younger.

[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yes please capitalism daddy, tell me all about the new paradigm

[–] 200fifty@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a veritable paradigm shift. Just think of the synergy.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hadn’t seen this before, and that made a great start to my morning :D

Definitely a loopable watch

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

I recall seeing the leaked document previously some years ago, hadn’t seen the rest yet. After the morning take I’ll take a look

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

especially under supervision of a developer

i think i just spotted the man behind the curtain

AI alienates employment but does not replace it

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also in my experience reviewing and fixing things is often more time consuming that doing them yourself.