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I suspect that if we taught our people to value education, and made it easily available to them, we wouldn't need to enshrine this particular issue (or many others for that matter) in law.
You cannot teach an extremist to value an education when education destroys extremism.
At a certain point people have to be simply told they are wrong and made to acquiesce to the will of the majority. This is one of those instances.
That doesn't sound dangerous at all!
Christians are the majority in the USA, would you rather they enshrine into law you must believe in Jesus?
What you most likely mean is that you want to force other people to follow your point of view, which is a dangerous power when granted to everybody, not just the people you agree with.
I'm not saying I disagree with you on this issue, just that the method of enacting change should adapt to be one where the people changing want to change, and consent to it, because you've convinced them - not because you've forced them, whether physically or situationally.
It may shock you, but the overwhelming majority of Christians would never stand for this.
My experience with American Christianity teaches me that there are three main types (of course, subtypes exist within each type).
ser the word "they" exists 😂
Haha! I did that first, but didn't want to offend anyone, and redid. So, instead, apparently, I went with s/he, her/his... not sure that's better hahahaha
as an expert^1^ I can affirm that singular usage of they/them is absolutely acceptable in polite conversation with people who may be non-binary or with people whom you don't wish to assume what gender they identify as.
1 - Why am I claiming I am an expert? I'm nonbinary and trans myself; and I moderated /r/genderqueer for a long time; so I do see trends.
God the religion vs. faith thing, I'm glad to see someone articulate it. It's bizarre to me how many people are seemingly super hardcore into their religion as a social club, but if you observe them closely they come across like "believing it" is just a game they play for the sake of staying in.
The frequent 'S/he' s make it so tiring to get through this. And calling one of them a 'true Christian' seems a bit biased.
It's all very generalized. I was hoping that was clear. How is it biased calling someone who falls fully into cat1 a True Christian? I'm seriously asking. I'm not starting a fight. I'm genuinely curious how I messed it up.
I just wanted to say that you nailed this perfectly.
Christians may be a majority. But extremist Christians with desires on invading privacy and enforcing their religion on others are a minority.
The ending phrase “this is one of those instances” implies they aren’t arguing the point to the same degree you are.
edit: also, the example you provide isn’t really a concern because freedom of religion is currently a guaranteed constitutional right, and if republicans want to repeal that then guns are also entirely on the table. A better example would be gay marriage, where the majority told the conservative minority to stick it and get over it.
My implication was that we teach them before they become extremists.
But I'll agree that fixing the situation we have already would also be worthwhile.